Agnostic looking for God

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Hi, SecretCatholic.

I’m glad that you want to believe … search and you will find 🙂

Science Tests Faith - youtube.com/watch?v=-kuxEJXgGSI 🙂

I would like to share with you SecretCatholic these short booklets that have deepened me in the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church in many ways (They all contain the Roman Catholic Imprimatur which assures the reader that nothing therein is contrary to Catholic Faith, Morals or Teachings).

Books on the Eucharist
The Holy Mass - loveandmercy.org/Eng-HM-Reg.pdf
In Adoration - loveandmercy.org/Eng-IA-Reg.pdf

Books on the Passion
The Passion - loveandmercy.org/Eng-TP-Reg.pdf
The Stations of The Cross - loveandmercy.org/Eng-SOC-Reg.pdf
From Sinai to Calvary - loveandmercy.org/Eng-FSC-Reg.pdf
I Have Given My Life for You - loveandmercy.org/Eng-IHG-Reg.pdf

Books on Spiritual Testimonies & Devotions
Divine Providence - loveandmercy.org/Eng-DP-Reg.pdf
My Broken Christ Walks Over the Waters - loveandmercy.org/Eng-MBC-Reg.pdf
Praying the Rosary - loveandmercy.org/Eng-PR-Reg.pdf
The Visible Face of the Invisible God - loveandmercy.org/Eng-VF-Reg.pdf

for more information regarding these booklets with messages from Christ, please read this - youshallbelieve.com/A-plea-to-humanity.pdf

I would also just like to share with you some arguments I have learned that I really like for the existance of God.

**Truth **

I believe the truth arguemnt is one of the most powerful arguments, because without God, the words true or false simply become meaningless, so the question I ask the atheist is if there is no God, why do you believe it to be true?

C.S. Lewis explains it well I believe.

“Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It’s like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can’t trust my own thinking, of course I can’t trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God.” - C.S. Lewis

The theory that thought is merely a movement in the brain is, in my opinion, nonsense; for if so, that theory itself would be merely a movement, an event among atoms, which may have speed and direction but of which it would be meaningless to use the words ‘true’ or ‘false’. C.S. Lewis

If the solar system was brought about by an accidental collision, then the appearance of organic life on this planet was also an accident, and the whole evolution of Man was an accident too. If so, then all our present thoughts are mere accidents - the accidental by-product of the movement of atoms. And this holds for the thoughts of the materialists and astronomers as well as for anyone else’s. But if their thoughts - i.e., Materialism and Astronomy - are mere accidental by-products, why should we believe them to be true? I see no reason for believing that one accident should be able to give me a correct account of all the other accidents. It’s like expecting the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset. - C.S. Lewis

John Lennox also explains it well I believe

*I believe in God because I believe there is evidence for God, for example, in the very fact that we can do science, we believe that the universe is rationally intelligable. Why does a scientist believe it is rationally intelligable? Atheism tells us that the human mind is the human brain and it’s the end product of a mindless unguided process, why should I believe anything it tells me if thats the case? Whereas theism tells me that there is intelligence behind the universe and behind the human mind which fits perfectly with science. So part of the evidence for God would be the fact that we can do science.

Infact the rise of science in the 16th and 17th century came about because people expected law in nature, because they believed in the Law giver (God). So science and faith in God fit perfectly together.* - John Lennox

So It’s actually not science and theism that are in conflict as many atheists claim, it’s actually science and atheism that are in conflict, because atheism cannot trust the cognitive faculties we use to do science. As C.S. Lewis says, atheism and science is like expecting the accidental shape taken by the splash when you upset a milk-jug should give you a correct account of how the jug was made and why it was upset.

By denying God, the honest skeptic becomes skeptical of his skepticism.

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Morality

When you assert that there is such a thing as good, arn’t you assuming there is such a thing as evil? and when you say there is such a thing as evil, arn’t you also assuming that there is a moral law in which to distinguish between good and evil? There must be some standard by which to determine what is good and what is evil. And when you assume a moral law, don’t you have to posit a moral law giver – the source of the moral law? But this moral law giver is precisely who atheists are trying to disprove.

Thus in the eye’s of the Atheistic worldview, I believe the words good/evil, right/wrong, ture/false, simply become meaningless. So how can they appeal to these things in an effort to debunk Religion?

I am yet to find an atheist who does not appeal to true/false, right/wrong, good/evil in their argumentation, yet they deny these very things.

I would also like to share with you Anthony Flew’s (Atheists turned Theist) argument for God.

"Some have said that the laws of nature are simply accidental results of the way the universe cooled after the big bang. But, as Rees has pointed out, even such accidents can be regarded as secondary manifestations of deeper laws governing the ensemble of universes. Again, even the evolution of the laws of nature and changes to the constants follow certain laws. 'We’re still left with the question of how these “deeper” laws originated. No matter how far you push back the properties of the universe as somehow “emergent,” their very emergence has to follow certain prior laws.'1 So multiverse or not, we still have to come to terms with the origin of the laws of nature. And the only viable explanation here is the divine Mind.” - Anthony Flew

Also regarding your post about people claiming religion to be the cause of our problems, I absolutely agree with you that they are making a disastrous mistake.

Anyway, sorry for the late reply into this thread, I hope you are still following, and if you have any more questions or doubts, please let me know, theres much more I can say but I don’t want to turn this post into an essay. 😃

I hope I have helped you

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
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