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I respect your opinions.I have no idea what the previous poster’s theological problems with the song are, but here are mine, FWIW:
Overall: The song is about us. We’re going to do this and that, and it doesn’t say that we’re given the ability to do it by God, or that we’re doing it for God, or that God is really all that involved in the process, except in the second half of verse 2. The rest all seems to be about how great (in earthly, humanitarian terms) we either are or are going to be.
we have not built the Church, God did.
Love can dwell anywhere. We don’t have an exclusive on it.
This isn’t a theological problem, but it’s a bit twee, and children may know how to forgive, but generally I haven’t seen a huge ability to tell people about how.
The Love of Christ is for more than just ending divisions, but this is OK, except it’s the first mention of God in the song.
This is true, and probably the best line in the song.
It’s possible that this is just meaningless, but if it’s not, it is certainly very ambiguous. To be fair, I think the problem is just that the author was paying more attention to rhythm and rhyme than content at this point. However, it could reasonably be interpreted to mean that people were having a new (i.e. different from what God has revealed) idea of what God’s reign entails.
It’s going so well (except for the thing about us building the house) until we get to “where peace and justice meet.” If we mean God’s justice, that seems inappropriate, since the Eucharist is an act of God’s mercy. None of us deserves to receive Christ in the Eucharist, and it’s not God’s justice that allows us to receive Him. It’s God’s mercy. If it’s human justice, how is that even relevant here? I thought we were talking about the Eucharist?
This may be the part people have the most problem with. First, there should really be a comma after Christ. (Sorry, I’m a grammar weenie.) Without the comma, it sounds like we are saying, “as we share (in Christ) the feast that frees us” With the comma, we are saying “As we share in Christ, Who is the feast that frees us,” which is lots better.
But the real problem is that it sounds like we are saying all are welcome to share the Eucharist. It’s not exactly saying that really, but in practice it sounds like it is.
Verse 4 is pretty good all through.
Verse 5 is pretty terrible stylistically all through. The main theological problem with it is that it sounds like all of the “visions” of anyone in the Church are true, and within Christ. It’s just not true. I certainly wouldn’t want all of my own “visions” to be heard, loved, treasured, taught, and claimed. It gives the idea that all things are true, which is simply not true. For example, I think that there are Catholics who have the “vision” that you have to be an actual member of the Church to get to Heaven. This is contrary to what the Church teaches (CCC #1260). Should I love, treasure, teach, and claim that vision? Of course not. All people are made in the image and likeness of God, and should be treasured. That does not mean that all of their ideas should be treasured.
Anyway, it’s not my least-favorite hymn, especially if you don’t get to verse 5, but there are issues with it. I don’t know that I personally would call them “obvious theological problems,” but there are issues that should perhaps be taken into account when deciding how frequently to sing the hymn.
Ideally, a Catholic composer would compose a different hymn that was just as welcoming while being more about God, unambiguous theologically, and better poetry. Personally, I don’t have the skills. It’s always easier to be a critic than an artist.
–Jen
P.S. To the poster’s original question, we don’t use it in my current parish, but we did in my previous one.
We must be careful not to sit back and wait for God do all the welcoming and building. He works through His people. On this earth, we are His arms, legs, mouth, eyes, etc. That’s what this hymn is talking about when it says, “Let us build the house.” Yes, God builds the Church, but He uses us to do the work. It as always been this way. Yes, you are right, God built His Church, but He used people to do the work.
“Let us build a house where Love can dwell.” This statement does NOT claim exclusivity of love. You are reading something into the hymn that it doesn’t say.
You say that the line about “daring to seek to dream God’s reign anew” is ambiguous. I say that this is poetry, and it is intended to mean something different to everyone who sings it, depending on their background. To me as a former Protestant, this line is very special because it is TRUE. I spent the first 47 years of my life learning a version of God’s reign taught by my Protestant teachers and preachers, and I thought it was wonderful. Then I became Catholic, and I am learning and marveling over an entirely different version of God’s reign, and it is grand and sweeping and amazing.
I don’t believe we’ve every sung any verses other than the first 2 verses, so I can honestly not recall any of that troublesome “fifth verse.” I looked it up online, and I don’t see this verse in the Marty Haugen version. So I’m not really sure what it is.
As for the comma, often in musical lyrics, commas indicate places where breaths should be taken. In that particular line of the song, the composer doesn’t want the people taking a breath, but singing one line in all one breath.