All they want to do is hsve meetings :(

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I was asked to join a group to help poor people, but its been a year since we formed, and all we do is attend boring meetings, and argue about correct meeting format. One lady actually works with the poor for a living, and maybe shes burned out, but she makes negative comments about poor people. I was questioned about why I havent been attending (guilted me), but he already knows in his heart, bc he mentioned we are getting ready to get the ball rolling. Ok, call me when that happens. I WANT to help. But I can think of better ways to socialize than falling asleep at meetings. I may go one more time, and if its the same old same old, Im just gonna say, call me if you need an extra hand.

–frustrated and over it.
 
Join St. Vincent dePaul, If your parish doesn’t have a chapter, go to the nearest parish that does. They do great work.
 
PC is correct. So does the Salvation Army and they do need volunteers. Peace.
 
We ARE St VdePaul.
Then someone outside SVdP needs to shake up the leadership. A pastor or someone in a similar position of authority who has the willingness to do it. Otherwise, yea, just tell to call you if they need an extra hand.

Shalom
 
I was asked to join a group to help poor people, but its been a year since we formed, and all we do is attend boring meetings, and argue about correct meeting format. One lady actually works with the poor for a living, and maybe shes burned out, but she makes negative comments about poor people. I was questioned about why I havent been attending (guilted me), but he already knows in his heart, bc he mentioned we are getting ready to get the ball rolling. Ok, call me when that happens. I WANT to help. But I can think of better ways to socialize than falling asleep at meetings. I may go one more time, and if its the same old same old, Im just gonna say, call me if you need an extra hand.

–frustrated and over it.
Did you tell them all that you just told us here? If not, DO IT. They need to know.
 
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the feedback.
ONe last thought When was the last time the group had an election of officers???
Perhaps it’s time. Contact the Main Chapter for guidelines for leadership.
Ask them to help revitalize this particular group. Because in the meantime, you are willing, and people are in need.
God bless you. 👍
 
We ARE new. Im going to one more meeting, then if we’re not setting up times to help families, Im out.
 
We ARE new. Im going to one more meeting, then if we’re not setting up timesvt help families, Im out.
Well, that’s probably a good plan.
But question:

Who made her President? THe pAstor? By election of the membership of the SVdP Society there?

Seems like is she doesn’t resonate with poor people she is a poor choice.
A frank talk with the Pastor might be in order, emphasizing that you have energy and zeal, but it seems that the group is not functioning.

I pray he would listen to you, wish you were here, LOL We could always use dynamic volunteers!
 
Hi Redbasket

The group seems to be drifting and lacks focus. Things need to be time bound and an action plan needs to be drawn up to get things into focus and moving. At the next meeting you could politely point out that things need to be actioned now as people are in need now and the drift needs halting. Try to not apportion blame and don’t point the finger at anyone. Just say you observe a sense of drift and lack of focus and action. See if your view is shared.

Offer to take on some concrete action like identifying someone to visit. Get others to agree to accompany you and set a firm date for it to happen and proceed accordingly. Tick things off the list as they are achieved.

God bless your endeavours.
 
I am in Australia and belong to a vibrant and active St Vincent de Paul Conference in my parish. You need to contact your Regional or National President - please don’t just leave without advising them of the problem in your Conference. Your Head Office should be able to address the problem.

Typical Parish Conference Agenda: svdpusa.org/members/Membership/Conference
 
I was asked to join a group to help poor people, but its been a year since we formed, and all we do is attend boring meetings, and argue about correct meeting format. One lady actually works with the poor for a living, and maybe shes burned out, but she makes negative comments about poor people. I was questioned about why I havent been attending (guilted me), but he already knows in his heart, bc he mentioned we are getting ready to get the ball rolling. Ok, call me when that happens. I WANT to help. But I can think of better ways to socialize than falling asleep at meetings. I may go one more time, and if its the same old same old, Im just gonna say, call me if you need an extra hand.

–frustrated and over it.
The old ready … aim … aim some more … and more (and NEVER fire!) syndrome.

Sorry to lose some with the gun analogy … but we never hit our targets if we never holler

“GO !”

Your headline tells it all. Good summary. Per Christianity, I’m reminded of a couple things.

1. Lessons from the Loaves and Fishes LK 9:13, Matt 14:16, Mk 6:37
“Why don’t YOU give them SOMETHING (to eat)” – Jesus *emphases mine
Jesus’ advice was in response to the apostles telling Him about a social problem He was already aware of. A large crowd was in a deserted place, without visible hospitality available in the immediate area. Apparently the apostles ***also had a meeting. *** And concluded that they’d advise God of a more superior agenda than just letting Him continue teaching the people (i.e. giving them “food” of the spiritual and everlasting kind).

They were advisors. They had done nothing but recognize the (rather obvious) problem. But they were impatient to see its resolution … ostensibly with the highest of social justice intentions … but *without much (or any) personal commitment. * Jesus simply posed the question above (I imagined the emphasis) … changing the grandiose idea(s) of feeding everybody (or having everybody solve their own problem and walking out on God’s sermon in favor of … food) … into a “DO what you can with what you have for the people you can …” practicality.

Jesus then blessed the few loaves and fishes, obediently now provided by the apostles, and gave distribution orders which were obeyed … to miraculous results. What began with humble DOING something tangible … ended up accomplishing the high aims of the apostles … and remains as a lesson to us all. Per this … get to doing SOMETHING … instead of interminable and fruitless planning which never does anything but acknowledge obvious problems already known to all.

2. Sirach Chapter 2

Our old Young Adult Ministry adopted this Chapter for our first team meetings, reminding us all that we had trials ahead of us (and a spiritual enemy opposed to us) whenever we began to do the Lord’s work.
**Sirach Chapter 2:1-11
When You Come To Serve The Lord, Prepare Yourself For Trials**
2:1 My son, when you come to serve the LORD, prepare yourself for trials.
2 Be sincere of heart and steadfast, undisturbed in time of adversity.
3 Cling to him, forsake him not; thus will your future be great.
4 Accept whatever befalls you, in crushing misfortune be patient;
5 For in fire gold is tested, and worthy men in the crucible of humiliation.
6 Trust God and he will help you; make straight your ways and hope in him.
7 You who fear the LORD, wait for his mercy, turn not away lest you fall.
8 You who fear the LORD, trust him, and your reward will not be lost.
9 You who fear the LORD, hope for good things, for lasting joy and mercy.
10 Study the generations long past and understand; has anyone hoped in the LORD and been disappointed? Has anyone persevered in his fear and been forsaken? has anyone called upon him and been rebuffed?
11 Compassionate and merciful is the LORD; he forgives sins, he saves in time of trouble.
At verse 12 Sirach gave warnings about some of the problems you mention. Admonishments are not as popular to quote as encouragements, but if another reader reads verses 12 - 18, finishing the short chapter, it is pretty powerful guidance to meetings to get GOING (beyond discussion). 🙂

vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PM4.HTM

On a personal note, I was once at a Charismatic prayer meeting in which much prayer was offered (mostly petitions for ending hardships and complaining to God about problems as it happened). :whistle:

Some people began speaking in tongues (new to me at the time) and a leader said that it was best not to just pray in tongues, but if any had an interpretation of a tongue to share it with the group (quoting St. Paul on the matter).

Not considering that I HAD that charism, I nonetheless DID understand a person speaking a tongue right next to me. It was one word, over and over, “Ite, Ite, Ite”.

I recognized it and shared it as the Latin word Ite. From the end of mass “Ite Missa Est” (Go the Mass is Over). Ite in English meant GO!

What does that mean? I was asked. I prefaced my answer with an “I don’t know …” for a moment. Then shared that perhaps it was simply GO! DO! Put the words, even of prayers, behind us and begin doing things in His power and with faith that something good would come from it.
 
Sirach 2:12 Woe to craven hearts and drooping hands, to the sinner who treads a double path!
13 Woe to the faint of heart who trust not, who therefore will have no shelter!
14 Woe to you who have lost hope! what will you do at the visitation of the LORD?
15 Those who fear the LORD disobey not his words; those who love him keep his ways.
16 Those who fear the LORD seek to please him, those who love him are filled with his law.
17 Those who fear the LORD prepare their hearts and humble themselves before him.
18 Let us fall into the hands of the LORD and not into the hands of men, For equal to his majesty is the mercy that he shows.
This continuation of Sirach Chapter 2 is worth posting in its entirety to. And germane to the thread’s theme IMO. 🙂
 
PC is correct. So does the Salvation Army and they do need volunteers. Peace.
The Salvation Army is a religion; Catholics should not be participating in it, since they deny the Sacraments and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

The Society of St. Vincent de Paul is very Catholic, by contrast.

It seems odd to me that the action portion of the program isn’t taking care of itself - do you not have a hotline for the poor people to phone and ask you to come, and a list of what they need you to bring?
 
The Salvation Army is a religion; Catholics should not be participating in it, since they deny the Sacraments and the divinity of Jesus Christ.

The Society of St. Vincent de Paul is very Catholic, by contrast.

It seems odd to me that the action portion of the program isn’t taking care of itself - do you not have a hotline for the poor people to phone and ask you to come, and a list of what they need you to bring?
The Salvation Army does not, in any way, shape, or form, deny the divinity of Jesus Christ.
Nor do they deny the sacraments. They encourage their members to participate in them, but do not practise them. It’s a very tricky theological slope.

But you cannot say they deny their Saviour. They might not have the fulness of truth, but my gosh, they never have denied the divinity of Our Lord!
 
We ARE St VdePaul.
That one made me laugh. Kind of like ours. Kind of like a social club. They take in a lot of donations and sell them, but don’t seem to do a lot of good with the money they receive, and they do receive a lot of money. RedBasket, don’t quit, make it better and functional. Peace.
 
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