America's Getting More Tolerant and Haters Hate It

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America’s Getting More Tolerant and Haters Hate It 😃

The country’s social fabric and social attitudes are getting healthier. Ignore the Charlottesville fringe.

Sure, there were a lot of haters in Charlottesville. That shouldn’t obscure some better news, which is that the U.S. is becoming a more accepting and tolerant nation. Unlike President Donald Trump, most citizens don’t equivocate when asked their opinion of the hate groups that descended on Virginia two weeks ago.

One of the most interesting changes over the years is in attitudes toward interracial marriage. In 1968, a year after interracial marriage was given constitutional protection, 73 percent of the public opposed these unions, including one-third of African-Americans. Only 20 percent approved of them. By 2013, the last year Gallup’s pollsters asked the question, attitudes had dramatically reversed: 87 percent of poll respondents approved of interracial marriage and only 11 were opposed.

According to the Pew Research Center, 7 percent of Americans consider themselves multi-racial. This is an accelerating trend embraced by young people.

While most multi-racial people say they’ve been targets of racial slurs or jokes, almost none think their status is a liability. One in five, the Pew survey finds, say it’s an advantage, while three-quarters say it has made no difference in their daily lives or career.

The Pew Center’s conclusion: Multi-racial Americans “are at the cutting edge of social and demographic changes in the U.S. — young, proud, tolerant and growing at a rate three times as fast as the population as a whole.”

Same-sex marriage is also widely accepted — just a few years after even liberal Democratic politicians like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton put themselves on record as opponents.

White nationalists like Trump’s deposed White House aide Steve Bannon contend that Americans yearn for the bygone age when intolerance was the norm. No doubt some of them do. Bannon grew up in Virginia, a state that massively resisted school integration in the 1950s; he was a teenager there in 1967 when the Supreme Court unanimously overturned the state law barring interracial marriage in its famous Loving v. Virginia decision.

But changing attitudes accompany changing realities. One way to measure social change is to look at the Index of Leading Cultural Indicators, a statistical overview of social indicators like crime, the family, youth behavior, popular culture and religion launched by the conservative commentator Bill Bennett in 1994.

After soaring for decades, many key indicators of social decay started to fall in the first years of the 21st century. Violent crime, abortion and divorce, for example, began trending downward. So did out-of-wedlock births

Credit for the latter should be given to educational efforts in the public sector and to private groups like the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancies. Carol Hogue, a maternal and child-health specialist at Emory University, says women are engaging in “better use of contraceptives,” adding: “If all couples used a combination of condoms with an IUD or combined oral contraceptive, there would be fewer maternal deaths, 80 percent fewer unintended pregnancies and about 150,000 fewer abortions.”

Today, rates of crime and divorce have fallen to levels unseen since the 1970s. By 2014, the abortion rate had dropped to the lowest level since the Supreme Court made abortion a constitutional right in 1973.

There’s still too much crime, too much illicit drug use, too many fractured families, and still too much bigotry. Blacks and whites see racial progress in depressingly different terms. A rising death rate among middle-aged white Americans, reflecting increases in alcoholism, drug abuse and suicide amid the decline of middle-class jobs, is also cause for profound concern.

But the country’s social fabric is nevertheless healthier than it was a decade or two ago. So are its social attitudes. The hatemongers of Charlottesville are a despicable fringe.
 
Leftist author Al Hunt is correct about some things and dead wrong about others. It is correct that America is become more tolerant on racial issues, despite what some would have us believe.
 
Another viewpoint: America is getting more “tolerant” of actions that were once considered aberrant/unhealthy/dangerous (and I exclude mixed-race marriage from this), and significantly less tolerant of opinions, speech, religious practices, cultural traditions, and thought that differ from the accepted media-driven narrative.
 
Leftist author Al Hunt is correct about some things and dead wrong about others. It is correct that America is become more tolerant on racial issues, despite what some would have us believe.
That’s because instances of racial violence now make the world news.

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Biblically speaking, shouldnt things actually get worse in a place where sin of this nature is tolerated and eventually accepted?

Im not sure what to think, Ive always been taught sin, especially sexual sin was progressive, it will ALWAYS get worse and more deviant the further a nation gets away from God and his laws, but in some regards that doesnt seem to be the case, while people are more tolerant and accepting of SSM and homosexuality nowadays, most people are still pretty outraged at the sex trade, human trafficking, especially involving children, and other such sexual sins, I mean, whenever there is a news piece about someone going after a child sexually, nearly everyone wants that person punished, and all agree it is wrong, there is NO ONE arguing for tolerance or acceptance, in fact there are more things put in place to catch people like this now too, so in that aspect it has gotten a lot better.

One would think, especially in a world like the one we live in, people would be tolerant/ accepting of all kinds of immoral things.

So Im beginning to think maybe sexual sin (and sin in general) is not progressive, people and nations can sort of reach a plateau so to speak, in terms of what they will tolerate/ accept and what will always be seen as horrible/ wrong/ immoral.

Confused??
 
Another viewpoint: America is getting more “tolerant” of actions that were once considered aberrant/unhealthy/dangerous (and I exclude mixed-race marriage from this), and significantly less tolerant of opinions, speech, religious practices, cultural traditions, and thought that differ from the accepted media-driven narrative.
Opinions and the resulting speech around them has certainly become more polarized. However cultures are always changing and, honestly, some of what you seem to be pining wasn’t necessarily good. The cultural order established by the WWII generation suppressed and white washed many levels of society. It’s no wonder that social changes exploded afterwards and gained momentum to this day. Many conservative evangelical and especially older Christians have been trying to tamp things down, as early as the Regan era, to the “way things were”. There is no such thing as old time religion, church attendance hit near or above the country’s high point in the 1950s. There’s a reason for the multiple “great awakenings” in this country’s past. The question is what are Christians to do now that they are not the default? The disciples themselves did not zap people into becoming Christians, something not the social norm at the time. The evangelized and explained the beliefs, so we too find ourselves.
That’s because instances of racial violence now make the world news.
Might it be that there is finally visible proof of racial bias now becoming available and unavoidable?
 
Same-sex marriage is also widely accepted — just a few years after even liberal Democratic politicians like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton put themselves on record as opponents.
Most likely they were just waiting for things to change to say what they really thought.
After soaring for decades, many key indicators of social decay started to fall in the first years of the 21st century. Violent crime, abortion and divorce, for example, began trending downward. So did out-of-wedlock births
What about mass shootings? DIY abortions? Can’t have more divorce if no one’s marrying in the first place.
Credit for the latter should be given to educational efforts in the public sector and to private groups like the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancies. Carol Hogue, a maternal and child-health specialist at Emory University, says women are engaging in “better use of contraceptives,” adding: “If all couples used a combination of condoms with an IUD or combined oral contraceptive, there would be fewer maternal deaths, 80 percent fewer unintended pregnancies and about 150,000 fewer abortions.”
Except studies are showing this isn’t the only reason if at all. It also helps if fewer teens are having sex. But contraceptives are the West’s sacraments. If we’re told birth control pills will prevent malnutrition (they can’t) and most of us will believe it. Also this:
By many measures, contraceptive use has increased since the early 1980s. However, the unintended-pregnancy rate today is almost exactly where it was in 1981. The 50 percent reduction in the U.S. abortion rate since 1980 is not due to contraception. It is due to the fact that a higher percentage of women with unintended pregnancies are carrying them to term. Guttmacher statistics show that almost 54 percent of unintended pregnancies were aborted in 1981; that percentage fell to 40 percent by 2008.nationalreview.com/corner/445688/planned-parenthood
There’s still too much crime, too much illicit drug use, too many fractured families, and still too much bigotry.
The sacrament of contraceptives is partly responsible for fractured families. So let’s push more onto the public.
 
“White nationalists like Trump’s deposed White House aide Steve Bannon contend that Americans yearn for the bygone age when intolerance was the norm.”

Well, I don’t know. Looks to me like hate is still alive. Whatever makes you think Bannon is a white supremacist? And why do you think intolerance was the norm at some point in the past and that it’s gone now? If you ask me, it’s worse than it ever was. It’s just that it is more ideological now.

I personally doubt any employer would agree with you that things are improving within the culture. Right now, there is a labor shortage almost everywhere, particularly among the low skilled workforce, but not entirely so. Ask any employer what the main problem is, and they’ll tell you it’s because so few can pass the drug test.
 
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I personally doubt any employer would agree with you that things are improving within the culture. Right now, there is a labor shortage almost everywhere, particularly among the low skilled workforce, but not entirely so. Ask any employer what the main problem is, and they’ll tell you it’s because so few can pass the drug test.
Same issue in many parts of the West and in the UK (and Canada), the government promotes drug use:
As we grapple yet again with the problem of our wide-open borders, it is time we realised that there is another reason for this country’s huge migration problem.
When I visited the Lincolnshire town of Boston a few years ago, to look at the revolution inflicted on it by mass immigration, I also noted the presence of knots of home-grown British louts and the existence of a smart and costly ‘resource centre’, offering tax-funded advice on how to inject illegal drugs. This plainly had something to do with the problem.
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And the third is our welfare system, which responds to failure and misbehaviour by indulging it – a policy which ends by using tax revenues to teach criminals to take illegal drugs ‘safely’, and by handing them substitute drugs, so they can stupefy themselves legally instead.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co...uts-are-the-real-reason-we-need-migrants.html
 
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Gosh I couldn’t disagree more. There is nothing healthy about today’s attitudes. .
 
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