Anglican Use Mass?

[beckers]

I am a bit confused, are Catholics allowed to attend an Anglican Use Church, and is it valid?
I have also heard that their liturgy seems pretty conservative, similar to what we
used to have before the change.

Do any of you know of either a very reverant NO Mass in the Nevada area?
or
a TLM in that area,
or
an Anglican Use Church that is ok for Catholics to attend?

Please provide the name of the Church, what town it’s located in.
Thanks:thumbsup:

If it is an Anglican Use mass then yes it is catholic. I go to an Anglican Use Church (Our lady of Walsingham in houston, TX. The litgury is beautiful and you would enjoy it a lot. You can look at the litgury here. walsingham-church.org/site/Liturgy.html

Anglican Use parish aren’t everywhere. I think there are less than 15 parishes in the whole US. Some started up but couldn’t survive. Its good that everyone is interested in joining the ordinate but people can’t just start throwing titles around because it will confuse everyone too much. To be an Anglican Use parish you have to get permission from your bishop and rome and go through of other hoops. Doesn’t happen overnight! This is a good website on established Anglican Use parishes anglicanuse.org/index.htm

Merry christmas!

 

[otjm]

There is at least one parish in Texas, I believe, which converted prior to the issuance of the ordinariate (that is, several years ago), and I believe there are others. From what I have heard, the Church has let them use their prayer format, with some minor modifications that had to do with theology, not with a blending of the OF and/or the EF.

The talk was that the Ordinariates would be slow coming, and probably start in Australia, as that was one of the major sources of the request to Rome to do something so groups could come over.

In fact, there are 5 bishops in England - 3 active and 2 retired, several groups laity, and some priests who will be joining the Church at Easter, with ordinations at Pentecost, so it is a reality right now.

I don’t believe a bishop would have authority to deny them; they are not under a bishop’s authority, but rather take their authority from the Ordinariate - a structure that will be somehwhat similar to the Military diocese(s).

 

[laszlo]

I am not familiar with this problem, so I have a question:

By definition ‘Anglican use Mass’ is celebrated by a priest ordained by the Catholic Church, or there is no such requirement?

 

[Bluegoat]

I am not familiar with this problem, so I have a question:

By definition ‘Anglican use Mass’ is celebrated by a priest ordained by the Catholic Church, or there is no such requirement?

Yes. I think most or all were Anglicans and then were re-ordained in the CC.

 

[ajcstr]

More common are low-church and evangelical Anglicans, who may be more like evangelical Lutherans than Calvinists. Among these you would find they are not likely to see much praying to saints, belief in purgatory, and some have other strange and quaint customs. I think they generally still believe in the communion of saints.

Couple more:

Would the low church still follow a liturgy at their service?

Is the liturgy the same each Sunday throughout the Anglican Church as far as which readings are used?

 

[Bluegoat]

Couple more:

Would the low church still follow a liturgy at their service?

Is the liturgy the same each Sunday throughout the Anglican Church as far as which readings are used?

Yes, low Church Anglican typically use the same liturgy as high church ones. They just style it differently. (less smells and bells, the priest will wear a surplice and black stole, long long sermons, and sometimes they do things like celebrate from one side of the altar). Since the 70’s when the new style liturgies appeared, there are more “option” within the liturgy, so one can see more differences from parish to parish. Also, Anglo-Catholics usually have a Eucharist service every week. Low Church people may have one less often, say once a month or so. Other weeks they likely have a Morning Prayer service.

Anglicans do use a lectionary of readings, yes. In North America most use the Revised Common lectionary, so often will be reading the same lessons as Catholics or Lutherans. I am not sure about other countries, but I suspect they do the same - it’s under the Bishops authority. That being said, I’m in a parish that uses only the old lectionary, and there is a hole diocese that does in another part of Canada. But the principle is everyone ought to use the same lectionary and calendar.

 

[BernadetteM]

If your speaking of parishes that have broken away from the Episcopal church into what they call Continuing Anglican groups, which there are many different ones, there are differences in their theology and liturgy.

There are some who are considered low church and I don’t know if they follow the same liturgy and theolgy as when I was a member of the Episcopal church. As I recall from my youth these parishes celebrated what they called Holy Communion early on Sunday and Morning Prayer 3 times a month and once Holy Communion at the later service. They follow the Book of Common Prayer and the ministers didn’t wear chasubles etc.

Then there are Anglo Catholic and High Church groups who celebrate the liturgy with all the traditions that you would recognize in the Catholic Church. Some believe exactly in what the Catholic Church teaches, others take certain beliefs and leave Purgatory and Confession behind.

It is such a mix and so confusing unless you have grown up in the Episcopal church.

The Anglican Use parishes, there are now about 10, are fully Catholic, the priests are ordained Catholic priests and they have a beautiful liturgy, which hopefully with the Ordinariate being established will soon be allowed to bring back one of the Anglican Missals. Rome did include some from the OF, but the priests have done a great job incorporating these verses into the Anglican Use liturgy.

At this point there are rumors about what the Anglican Use liturgy will be, as there are Anglicans coming into the Ordinariate from different countries who have used different liturgies. No one knows if there will be just one basic liturgy or different ones for other countries.

The Ordinariates will have their own Ordinary, who if single might become a Bishop, the Ordinariates will deal directy with Rome or the CDF and bypass the local Bishop on everything concerning the Anglicans. However the Ordinary will also work with the local Bishop on matters concerning the whole Church. From my understanding if a local Latin Rite parish needs a priest to fill in for a Mass or vice a versa this would be allowed.

We will have to wait and see how the Ordinariates are implemented and I think it is a work in progress, it will develop over time.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette