Angry Parents Suing California Schools Over Mandatory Gay-Friendly Classes

[AveMaria517]

Also, I don’t believe “normal” is discriminated against in public schools. I believe the problem is that each person has their own idea of what normal is.

 

[buffalo]

Also, I don’t believe “normal” is discriminated against in public schools. I believe the problem is that each person has their own idea of what normal is.

Can every behavior be considered normal?

 

[happymommy]

I’m all for teaching children respect of others. We teach hate the sin, not the sinner. You stop teaching kids about sin and teach them that everything that everyone does is just fine and dandy and you have one big mess, oh wait…too late!!

 

[AveMaria517]

My point is that it is a public school. As a Catholic, there is a set of behaviours that are considered normal and moral. As a Catholic parent, I believe that it is my responsibility to teach my children those. A non- Catholic is not held accountable to the same rules, that is just common sense. So a school that is educating both Catholics and non-Catholics is not in charge of teaching morals or Catholic principles just as they aren’t in charge of teaching Muslim principles or Satan worshipping principles even though there are children of parents who practice both of those. Not all behaviours are considered normal, but alternative families are prevalent in public school systems and so are normal, however much judgmental people want to vilify them. If you are a parent in the US and your child is attending a public school that has a very diverse population and you don’t want your child to be exposed to it or you don’t want the responsibility of parenting your child, it is your right to take your child out of public school and enroll them in a private school that is more suited to your beliefs.

 

[Monica37]

AveMaria,
I guess that is where I was confused in your post. I think we all agree with you that school should be safe for every student (I have only worked in inner city schools so far so that covers a wide area). I just thought you were accusing the posters here of condoning the name calling while condemning the teaching of sexual lifestyles. As I said, I think all the posters have agreed that any bullying for any reason should be dealt with as it is disruptive to all. I still do not think that the teacher should be the one to expound on the reasons why some of those words are particularly bad. I can’t imagine trying to explain to a second grader why she should not be spelling the “f” word on the board. That has happened at one of the schools I worked in. The teacher told him to move to another center (activity) and the teacher reported the incident to the principal and wrote a note home. Most of the other kids in the class did not even know it happened. There are some other words I have heard (specifically used to describe girls) that are sexual related and we do not go into the reasons why that word is hurtful either.

Look, teachers try to teach. We do the best we can to defuse situations. We are role models and we try to build a classroom community mainly so that we can teach. That’s it.

 

[Harpazo]

This is downright blasphemy, from a Christian perspective. Why is it that when Christians oppose gay “marriage” they are condemned as bigots and are accused of “forcing our morality” on everyone, when they do the same exact thing? Oh, but they’re above reproach!

They are forcing their “morality” (or lack thereof) on America’s children and it’s despicable. May God have mercy on us all!

In Christ,
Andrew

 

[JacktheCatholic]

This is downright blasphemy, from a Christian perspective. Why is it that when Christians oppose gay “marriage” they are condemned as bigots and are accused of “forcing our morality” on everyone, when they do the same exact thing? Oh, but they’re above reproach!

They are forcing their “morality” (or lack thereof) on America’s children and it’s despicable. May God have mercy on us all!

In Christ,
Andrew

I hear you Andrew. I think it is very hypocritical too.

 

[JimG]

This is downright blasphemy, from a Christian perspective. Why is it that when Christians oppose gay “marriage” they are condemned as bigots and are accused of “forcing our morality” on everyone, when they do the same exact thing? Oh, but they’re above reproach!

They are forcing their “morality” (or lack thereof) on America’s children and it’s despicable. May God have mercy on us all!

In Christ,
Andrew

Maybe the problem is that schools can’t help but teach some kind of “morality,” even if it’s morality which Catholics or other Christians may find objectionable–e.g. all family or sexual lifestyles are equally acceptable.

As the population grows more diverse, it becomes more of a problem. We may have reached a point where public education, by its very nature, becomes an “establishment of religion,” imposed by the state. It requires all to accept the de facto state religion.

 

[buffalo]

Maybe the problem is that schools can’t help but teach some kind of “morality,” even if it’s morality which Catholics or other Christians may find objectionable–e.g. all family or sexual lifestyles are equally acceptable.

As the population grows more diverse, it becomes more of a problem. We may have reached a point where public education, by its very nature, becomes an “establishment of religion,” imposed by the state. It requires all to accept the de facto state religion.

Agree… which is secularism. So the state is violating the establishment clause.

 

[JimG]

Agree… which is secularism. So the state is violating the establishment clause.

Exactly. But this will never be admitted, because the de facto religion mandated by the curriculum will not be recognized by courts as a religion. I really don’t know. Test case, anyone? The only real remedy that I know of is to have all education funds go to the student & parents, not the school. They would then be free to choose whatever education they wanted.

The mandated religion is one reason why there is so much pressure by various lobbying groups to get their particular viewpoints included in the mandated school textbooks.

 

[buffalo]

Exactly. But this will never be admitted, because the de facto religion mandated by the curriculum will not be recognized by courts as a religion. I really don’t know. Test case, anyone? The only real remedy that I know of is to have all education funds go to the student & parents, not the school. They would then be free to choose whatever education they wanted.

The mandated religion is one reason why there is so much pressure by various lobbying groups to get their particular viewpoints included in the mandated school textbooks.

Yes - education vouchers.

The reductionism and homogenization of America marches on. Eliminate Tradition, Family and Property, the planks of communism.