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And yet…they exhibit many behaviors pleasing to God: patience, unselfishness, charity, saying a form of grace before each meal, ‘good Samaritanism’ politeness, I could go on …

What a telling remark.
And how gay marriage is still banned there, how the Japanese government and media is not rife with hostility towards the Church and Christianity, how Christian traditions are treated positively by the Japanese when in the West they are demised.

The list can go on.
 
A good common ground.

It depends on the moral and the worldview of the people watching. The LGBT viewers, for example would appreciate and rejoice. The Christian viewers, on the other hand would probably object more. Most irreligious, would not. The reaction and the judgement of the consumers on the media would also depend on their worldview and personal beliefs.

Note, that I never made this comment in regards to Love Live!, I made this comment in regards to creative and fictional works in general.

This is not to say that artistic and creative license trumps out insensitive positive depiction of sin, but the goal of artistic license and creativity naturally contradicts the strict and austere depiction of Christian values, therefore the line is blurry between creativity, and depiction of moral content. For example is C.S Lewis and J.R.R Tolkien, who were able to make frequent use of magical and fantasy in their works to Christian allegory and themes despite ire from Christian fundamentalists that such is “occult” and “pagan”. Another example is nudity in Christian Renaissance paintings, though no one would consider them “*****” today.

The gist is, when you’re some Christian doing creative art like Lewis, Tolkien or some Christian renaissance painter, sometimes, you naturally contradict values in art due to artistic license.

First, fandom is separate from canon work. Anyone can just do whatever they like as fanmade to a franchise, however sinful it is regardless of the intention of the authors or the canon developers. An example is the Vocaloid fandom.

Second, yes, there are things that are minor parts of a franchise, but sometimes, these niche aspects do not really occupy the whole aspect of the franchise as a whole, so there are certain aspects that are objectionable but not the whole franchise. Also, sometimes it depends on the scope and size of the franchise in question.

Well, I believe we are confused on how we define “explicit”. I believe the reason it is implicit is there is no direct reference to lesbian relationships or lesbian couples. Only “teasing” or joke, but not direct, unlike direct lesbian and gay couples that we see in American media today - infoplease.com/entertainment/gays-in-pop-culture-timeline.html. Again, there are far worse positive portrayal of lesbianism in Japanese pop culture, like yuri ***** hentai, which would be “really explicit”.

You are starting to impress me with your Japanese pop culture knowledge. Kiniro Mosaic! is a manga turned into anime about some 3 Japanese high school girls and 2 British girls in a yuri love triangle and centers on their daily lives. The anime is renowned, aside from the yuri, for the proficient English by the voice actresses in British accent. The yuri in Kinmoza is 1000x more explicit than Love Live!, if you are truly looking for “explicit” yuri.

God Bless.
Many fandoms have a sizable portion of them dedicated to “shipping”, that is, making couples from the characters of a show/game/production. When a show has a huge cast of characters of certain sex, some of the shipping is of the homosexual type. And these fans aren’t necessarily from lgbt groups, nor supporters of them.

I don’t think the works of C.S. Lewis or J.R.R. Tolkien are immoral. When I think of works that overlook morality, I think about the ones that portray sin as something good.

I know about the distinction between canon works and fandom works. But the influence of fandom is not something small, not only because some fans eventually get to be officially sanctioned authors, but because sometimes, authors pander to what some parts of the fandom want, and if that part supports something questionable, that is going to get focus on official works.

Yes, maybe we have different meanings for the word “explicit” in this context. For example, something more ambiguous, would be admiration some female characters have for their female friends. That still could fall on the field of friendship. Something more, explicit, or, obvious, would be the aforementioned scene of giving love letters, or shows that directly display couples like that.

Thanks. That is because I read about various of the shows that are available in each anime season.

God bless you!
 
Many fandoms have a sizable portion of them dedicated to “shipping”, that is, making couples from the characters of a show/game/production. When a show has a huge cast of characters of certain sex, some of the shipping is of the homosexual type. And these fans aren’t necessarily from lgbt groups, nor supporters of them.

I don’t think the works of C.S. Lewis or J.R.R. Tolkien are immoral. When I think of works that overlook morality, I think about the ones that portray sin as something good.

I know about the distinction between canon works and fandom works. But the influence of fandom is not something small, not only because some fans eventually get to be officially sanctioned authors, but because sometimes, authors pander to what some parts of the fandom want, and if that part supports something questionable, that is going to get focus on official works
The point is not the influence of the fandom, but the fact that the fandom is separate from the intentions of the author and the original developers. The works of the fandom constitute a separate creator always from the original makers. If some fans get to be officially sanctioned authors, then they are no longer a part of the fandom since they are now the official authors. If authors pander to the fandom, then it is the intention of the author, not the fandom. Authors’ reaction to the fandom vary, while others pander to the fandom, some ignore it, others intentionally troll the fandom and make them hate him.
Yes, maybe we have different meanings for the word “explicit” in this context. For example, something more ambiguous, would be admiration some female characters have for their female friends. That still could fall on the field of friendship. Something more, explicit, or, obvious, would be the aforementioned scene of giving love letters, or shows that directly display couples like that.

Thanks. That is because I read about various of the shows that are available in each anime season.

God bless you!
I consider “explicit” to be explicit depiction of homosexual relationships, couples and sexual relationship. An official lesbian couple, an official lesbian relationship, explicit romantic lesbian love and feelings as in an opposite sex sexual relationship, lesbian intercourse, not some teasing and joking.

Anyone can give you a love letter, your friends can troll you and write a letter in your shoe locker “Dear CesarAugustus, I liked you since the day I first met you. Anata ga suki desu watashi wa kawaii desu please senpai notice me~ Please go to detto with me aishiteru”.

Then, maybe you have heard about the incoming anime adaptation of Rewrite?
 
The point is not the influence of the fandom, but the fact that the fandom is separate from the intentions of the author and the original developers. The works of the fandom constitute a separate creator always from the original makers. If some fans get to be officially sanctioned authors, then they are no longer a part of the fandom since they are now the official authors. If authors pander to the fandom, then it is the intention of the author, not the fandom. Authors’ reaction to the fandom vary, while others pander to the fandom, some ignore it, others intentionally troll the fandom and make them hate him.

I consider “explicit” to be explicit depiction of homosexual relationships, couples and sexual relationship. An official lesbian couple, an official lesbian relationship, explicit romantic lesbian love and feelings as in an opposite sex sexual relationship, lesbian intercourse, not some teasing and joking.

Anyone can give you a love letter, your friends can troll you and write a letter in your shoe locker “Dear CesarAugustus, I liked you since the day I first met you. Anata ga suki desu watashi wa kawaii desu please senpai notice me~ Please go to detto with me aishiteru”.

Then, maybe you have heard about the incoming anime adaptation of Rewrite?
Yes, they are separate. My point is how some authors respond to fandom, and how there is some level of feedback.

I agree that these are more conventional examples. But, I think the presence of these jokes and teasing, responds to trends related to the aforementioned depictions. Another option is author appeal.

I’ve read something about it, but not much. Release dates and that is based on a visual novel. And I don’t know much about VN’s besides some basic notions.

God bless you.
 
Care to give a general gist on what is the series about?
The protagonist, Satoru, 29, is a failed manga artist who has a special ability to go back a few minutes in time, and he has used this power to prevent accidents. But when he is falsely accused of a crime, he flees, and finds himself far in the past, with a chance to correct a terrible wrong.

It’s stunning.
 
Uff-dah this thread is old.

:crying: Hulu has gone to a paying only model. I am sad because this was my main anime watching vehicle. In fact I had started watching Toradora! and the converted and it wasn’t available on Yahoo! view (Hulu’s free replacement). I found it on crunchyroll, but the viewer is not as good, the commercials longer, and browsing not as easy. Sigh, first world problems. Most of my other favorite anime are available on Yahoo! View except for Ghost Hunt (I haven’t checked everything, but a lot of it is there). I will have to check netflix more and get more familiar with crunchyroll and the funimation websites.
 
Aww. Yes, I heard that about Hulu.

Oddly enough, I just started watching something ‘new’ to me: Zenki. It’s old, and dumb, and mindless fun, and very much a cross between Sailor Moon and Inu Yasha (which, yes, I know, didn’t come until later. But still. Yamaguchi Kappei!)…very formulaic monster-of-the-week, and just what I needed.

The best part is, the dialogue is so simplistic I hardly have to glance at the subtitles. 😃
 
Aww. Yes, I heard that about Hulu.

Oddly enough, I just started watching something ‘new’ to me: Zenki. It’s old, and dumb, and mindless fun, and very much a cross between Sailor Moon and Inu Yasha (which, yes, I know, didn’t come until later. But still. Yamaguchi Kappei!)…very formulaic monster-of-the-week, and just what I needed.

The best part is, the dialogue is so simplistic I hardly have to glance at the subtitles. 😃
I am really enjoying Toradora! so far, even though I am only 3 episodes in.

I hear you about just needing mindless fun in our entertainment now and again. Sometimes I really want to watch the heady psychological thriller stuff and sometime I just need to watch a cute romantic comedy.

Otherwise I haven’t really been watching much anime lately. I rewatched some Aquarion Evol, just for the music (:p) and watched some of the original Aquarion, just because I realized that I watched the second “season” first. I haven’t actually finished it, but it really isn’t up my ally anyways. I am thinking about rewatching some “My Teen Romantic SNAFU” because it is pretty funny.
 
Hubby and I watched the whole D. Gray-man, and we recently came across the continuation D. Gray-man Hollow.

I can’t wait for Ep 9 to air. I couldn’t believe the Master/sensei with the red hair got killed. And what is happening to those half Akuma (thanks to Alma) was expected. You can’t play with fire and not get burned.

I’m confused with the Earl character, because now I know that he has another face inside the vampire face. And the Fourteenth Noah that wants to become the Earl. So anyone that becomes the Earl gets to transform into that fat vampire looking man?
 
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