Another Pokemon Thread. Please, read it?

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Might think about taking the passion and energy for fighting cartoons and turn it to the Pro Life movement!!
 
👍 That was my point. That’s why I said the demon thing was not a legitimate argument. People make up reasons to attack shows, rather than discuss them with their kids. Unless something is seriously offensive to a whole lot of people, the person who finds it offensive should re-examine their own viewpoint and see if they may be over-reacting.

The alternate reasons I listed were to point out that people can keep arguing and finding things wrong with shows without making up demons where there aren’t any. If one person argues with his next door neighbor about a show, it’s not going to change the show. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.

A Protestant friend of mine once asked me about the Catholic Church’s teaching on Mary, and when I explained it to her, she started to get defensive and argue with me. I simply replied “I can’t argue with you. You asked what the Church teaches. This is what the Church teaches. Just because you disagree, it’s not going to change the Church’s teaching, so there is no point in attacking me.” 🤷

Arguing for argument sake is tiring.

Light hearted debate on the other hand can be enlightening.
:)Precisely.
 
Your quoting “People” magazine about what the Vatican says? I wouldn’t take anything that magazine says about the Vatican seriously. The secular world doesn’t understand how the vatican works. I would however trust the man the Vatican has made Chief Exorcist.
He quoted People, but People quoted the London Times. I’m here quoting another article about the Vatican and another from a parenting magazine:

MSN GIST TV news
Pokémon and the Pope

Pokemon
Apr 21, 2000

The Vatican has announced that the trading-card and computer-game versions of Pokémon are “full of inventive imagination,” have no “harmful moral side effects” and celebrate “ties of intense friendship.” Whether that extends to the TV show, His Holiness didn’t say. The New York Post, quoting a Thursday story in The Times of London, says The Vatican made its announcement on its satellite TV station, Sat2000, run by the Italian Bishops’ Conference. Pokémon: The First Movie opened this week in Italy, where youngsters, like here, have shown a fanatical, um, devotion to the cute monster critters… which do not at this point include “Popémon.”

Frank Lovece, Gist TV Staff

Woman’s World 12/7/99
Experts reveal: Pokemon Mania is actually good for your kids
Kids across America are begging for anything Pokemon this Christmas. Yet some schools have banned it. And they’ve even been targeted by lawsuits alleging they encourage gambling! So what’s a parent to do? Stop worrying! say the experts. According to child psychologists, those strange little creatures can actually teach your children some valuable life lessons.

With Christmas approaching, Beth Werner is worried. Her daughter Lori, eight, has made it clear what she’s hoping to find under the tree: Pokemon trading cards.

“She carries the 42 she already has everywhere,” says the Tampa secretary. “I’m concerned that if we give her more, it’ll turn into an obsession!”

She’s not alone. Ever since this Japanese game - featuring 151 “pocket monsters” that children do battle with - hit America last year, parents have been trying to figure out whether it’s bad for kids.

“Relax,” says Robert Thompson, Ph.D., of the International Pop Culture Association.

“Pokemon are cute creatures endowed with special powers, including the power to teach valuable skills.” In fact, the Pokemon cards won the National Parenting Center’s Seal of Approval for being a game that involves strategy and creative thinking." Read on to find out:

The life skills Pokemon can teach your child

1 The importance of rules

To be a Pokemon master, “kids have to guide their monsters to follow rules,” says Michael Jellinek, M.D., chief of child psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital. “It’s a rehearsal for life; if you follow the rules you’re rewarded.” You can reinforce this lesson by reading the rulebook with your child. “You’ll be surprised to find it tells kids they should study and respect authority,” says Topeka mom Kathy Knox. And going over the rules is the perfect time to remind your child of the rules he’s expected to follow in school and at home.

2 The power of cooperation.

“The game is so complex, you have to talk to other kids about it to figure it out,” explains Thompson. “And anything that has kids talking together is good,” notes learning expert Natalie M. Elman.
In fact, says social worker Terry McDowell, Ph.D., “when kids learn to work out solutions together, they learn cooperation” - and that’s a valuable skill. And don’t worry that the game is too violent. While battle is a central theme, it’s never gory, say experts. When a Pokemon loses a fight, it faints, rather than dies - and it must go to a spa to be rejuvenated!

3 How to strategize.

Unlike some popular toys with little or no educational value, “Pokemon requires chess-like concentration and the ability to think ahead in sophisticated ways,” says Dr. Jellinek. And it helps children’s brains develop, but they don’t know they’re reaping benefits from it, they just enjoy it.

4 Reaching Goals.
In Pokemon, the pocket monsters encounter the same obstacles over and over until they overcome them. “To be successful, you can’t just try once and give up,” says child psychologist David Walsh Ph.D., of the National Institute on Media and the Family.
“You have to persevere.” It’s actually helped many children discover that they’re more adept at getting past frustration than they or their parents ever dreamed of.

“Your child will get a boost in self-esteem, which will help him gain confidence in his abilities,” says family counselor Mitchell Rosen, M.A.

5 The value of money.

Pokemon cards are a sophisticated form of currency. “Children manage their collections by studying the market and setting their own prices for trades,” reveals marketing professor Michael Kamins, Ph.D. To a child, a rare card is the same kind of thing as a very desirable piece of jewelry for an adult. She must decide how much she’s willing to spend - how many other cards she’s willing to trade - to get it. It’s a lesson in economics. And to help your child learn that lesson, don’t buy in to the “gotta catch 'em all” craze, advises Walsh. Leave some cards that your child wants in the store so he can save up for them, he says: 'It’s
an opportunity to teach patience."

-Anne Norman

And, second off, I’m simply defending the franchise, mainly involving the games. The TV show is rather harmless – in the eleven seasons of the show and as many movies, there are two (count 'em: two) instances of blood – and only then as human SCRAPES. You know, scrapes, like when a kid skins his knee or takes a tumble onto the sidewalk. The TV and game battles are about as violent as Popeye the Sailor.
 
My part in telling you Pokemon was the only one I approved was to get you to see you have no leg. I approached this wrong, Goddra2, so let’s try it again.

1.) If a poster claims something, he has to be the one to provide proof. So tell us, just where did you see on CAF that everybody or even the majority of CAFers were against Pokemon? Links are OK, you don’t have to quote.

2.) Is it not enough that parents should control what their younger children watch, and adults can pretty much watch they please? Or is it that you want to include a diet of Pokemon in every household?
 
mmmm Pokemon! 😃 Do they taste like chicken??

Anyway. If parents don’t let their children watch it, it’s no big deal. IF they do let their children watch it, guess what…it’s no big deal.

We like Pokemon over here, but over there they may not 🤷 Whatever, you know?
 
Sorry. You approached it wrong. I approached it wrong. I wasn’t arguing against you, I was just arguing against people who find something wrong with Pokemon, for any of the above-mentioned problems.

None of whom, apparently, touched this thread.
 
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