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I am a Catholic trying to understand the religion more.

Am I correct in thinking that it is impossible for a person to have the belief that Jesus is saving them ( i.e. faith) and not have works?
Is the faith that exists on its own (the faith that is dead, as Paul the apostle describes) the faith that the demons have (belief in God but not Jesus for salvation)?
I worry that I’m obeying God out of fear of Hell and I wasn’t sure if I was understanding faith correctly. Thinking about salvation in this way makes me feel bitter towards God and unloved by God (However, I’m open to being wrong for feeling this way and wrong about this). I know it is good to fear God out of respect and that we should trust that He is wiser.

Is fearing going to Hell, something, a person who believes Jesus is saving them, should not worry about?
 
I am a Catholic trying to understand the religion more.

Am I correct in thinking that it is impossible for a person to have the belief that Jesus is saving them ( i.e. faith) and not have works?
It’s actually the other way around. The virtue of faith may subsist even without charity. Hence, even when a Christian sins “mortally” they still have the virtue of faith, even though they lack divine charity in their soul.
Is the faith that exists on its own (the faith that is dead, as Paul the apostle describes) the faith that the demons have (belief in God but not Jesus for salvation)?
Absolutely.
I worry that I’m obeying God out of fear of Hell and I wasn’t sure if I was understanding faith correctly. Thinking about salvation in this way makes me feel bitter towards God and unloved by God (However, I’m open to being wrong for feeling this way and wrong about this). I know it is good to fear God out of respect and that we should trust that He is wiser.
Don’t worry. God’s mercy is deep.

Any sort of contrition is enough for forgiveness. So even if you’re right that you are sorry only because of fear of hell-- even that’s enough for God’s forgiveness. God is not burdensome in what He requires.

What will happen is this… as your Christian life deepens God’s perfect love will cast out fear of hell fire. Just keeping praying-- pray a lot, a whole lot-- and confessing your sins. God will transform your heart into a ‘natural heart’ which loves Him purely and wholly. God wants you to love Him only for Himself, and not out of terror, but He knows that He will have to gently teach you how. He teaches all of us. Just persevere, and He’ll give you that awesome gift.
Is fearing going to Hell, something, a person who believes Jesus is saving them, should not worry about?
Fear is a natural ‘passion’ (or emotion). Fear is literally running away from a difficult evil. In this sense fear is totally appropriate if you are in danger of Hell-- say you are in mortal sin. You need to run away from mortal sin. So if you have fear (in the sense of ‘terror’) of Hell, ask yourself… why? And if you have a good reason, such as being in a state of mortal sin, the proper way to get rid of such fear is by confessing your sin, resolving not to sin again, and praying to God for the grace not to sin anymore.

But if you don’t have any reason to fear hellfire, then yes, you absolutely should ignore it.

Remember that God’s mercy is SO deep and so wide that He’ll always offer us the grace we need. We only have to cooperate when He gives us the chance.

God wants us to love Him as Father, Brother and Friend, not to fear Him as a judge. The only way to learn this terrorless love, which St. John says, “casts out fear,” is to form a deep relationship with Him. And He REALLY wants us to enter into a deep relationship with Him, and not to be afraid of Him, but to love Him deeply. And He will give you that gift in time, if you persevere in prayer and holiness. God bless!

-Rob
 
Many saints of the church said they feared hell. and that people should fear falling into mortal sin most fervently…

if we feared hell more, we would not be so casual about things…

that said, you dont want fear to ruin/rule you… you have the great comfort of Jesus atoneing sacrifice, his Church, the examples of the faith and all.
and purgatory

THANK GOD for purgatory, where those who fall short of gaining heaven may yet avoid hell, and gain heaven after being purified…
THANK GOD.

anyway…“faith without works is dead” and jesus often says “who does Gods will? those that feed the hungry, help the poor…” in other words, those who ACT on their FAITH.

as i have said to myself more than once “talk is cheap, get going…”
i can claim all sorts of love for my fellows. all sorts of devotion, but can i get off my tuchus and go to church? volunteer? make Rosaries (i make rosaries, you dont have to), clean up my business? invite people with no family over for Thanksgiving?

if i dont even TRY to do something because of my faith… what good is it?
mind you, actions do not have to be seen by others!!!
spending hours in serious prayer, thats an act
getting up early so you can go to adoration? thats discipline and devotion…
 
I am a Catholic trying to understand the religion more.

Is the faith that exists on its own (the faith that is dead, as Paul the apostle describes) the faith that the demons have (belief in God but not Jesus for salvation)?
I think your other questions have been answered pretty well but I wanted to address the one above.

If I take your question literally (and I’m not sure it’s what you meant) I would have to say that’s not correct. Many protestants believe that accepting Jesus as their savior is all that is required for heaven but they still accept Jesus’ sacrifice as the reason they are saved. That was what St. Paul meant and not what you wrote about demons.

It also seems to me that demons know very well (better than we do) that Jesus is humanity’s salvation but they reject it for themselves out of hatred of God and try to do everything in their power to get us to reject it too.
 
Works are the proof, expression, evidence of sincere faith. How you live your life is witness to your proclamation of faith. From James 2: 26* “For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.” * I would suggest reading all of James 2 as well as Matthew 25.

From the CCC:
usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2chpt2.shtml#art4
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"Penance requires . . . the sinner to endure all things willingly, be contrite of heart, confess with the lips, and practice complete humility and fruitful satisfaction."49

Contrition

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Among the penitent’s acts contrition occupies first place. Contrition is "sorrow of the soul and detestation for the sin committed, together with the resolution not to sin again."50

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When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called “perfect” (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.51

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The contrition called “imperfect” (or “attrition”) is also a gift of God, a prompting of the Holy Spirit. It is born of the consideration of sin’s ugliness or the fear of eternal damnation and the other penalties threatening the sinner (contrition of fear). Such a stirring of conscience can initiate an interior process which, under the prompting of grace, will be brought to completion by sacramental absolution.** By itself however, imperfect contrition cannot obtain the forgiveness of grave sin**s, but it disposes one to obtain forgiveness in the sacrament of Penance.*52

God’s love and mercy are far greater than our sins. It is He who created you . Psalm 139
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    You formed my inmost being; you knit me in my mother’s womb.
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    I praise you, so wonderfully you made me; wonderful are your works! My very self you knew;
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    5 my bones were not hidden from you, When I was being made in secret, fashioned as in the depths of the earth.
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    Your eyes foresaw my actions; in your book all are written down; my days were shaped, before one came to be.
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    How precious to me are your designs, O God;
    how vast the sum of them!
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    Were I to count, they would outnumber the sands; to finish, I would need eternity.*
and from Romans 8:***
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No, in all these things we conquer overwhelmingly through him who loved us.**
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For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor present things, nor future things, nor powers,
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nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.*

“…in all these things we conquer overwhelmingly through him who loved us.”*** It would seem to me that, if you have not been to Confession recently, making a good confession might be most helpful. I would mention these concerns to your priest, who might suggest a daily examination of conscience - many good ones online, too, and give you some spiritual direction. Spend some time with Jesus before the Blessed Sacrament.

Though Hell is real, you should not live your life in fear of it. Salvation is real. Live in the hope of that. God sent His Son who died for us and set an example for us by His life.

John 14:
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    "Do not let your hearts be troubled. You have faith in God; have faith also in me.
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    In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If there were not, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?
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    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be.*
God bless. Keep asking questions!
 
It is vital to remember that Jesus of Nazareth has redeemed us – made it possible for us to be saved. Our salvation depends on our cooperation in believing and acting as best we know in doing good and avoiding evil.

The faithful Catholic assents to all dogma and doctrine and tries to live accordingly with Mass and the sacraments.
 
John 14:
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    "Do not let your hearts be troubled. You have faith in God; have faith also in me.
    2
    In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If there were not, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you?
    3
    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back again and take you to myself, so that where I am you also may be.*
God bless. Keep asking questions!
  1. ‘I will come back again’ … Can explain this more?
Peace be with you
Gareth
 
  1. ‘I will come back again’ … Can explain this more?
Peace be with you
Gareth
Getting ready to head for Mass, but…

beginningcatholic.com/catholic-nicene-creed.html**
The Nicene Creed **

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all that is, seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation, he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.
Amen.

Gotta go for now. Does that help?

God bless,
Linda
 
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