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Please help me to argument against this writings by Mr. Desroche (it was in French):
Please help me to argument against this writings by Mr. Desroche (it was in French):
- The message in the New Testament is found in texts older than the New Testament.
- He quotes and base a lot of what he writes on books of Alvin Boyd Kuln (Lost Light: An Interpretation of Ancient Scripture). It says that the Gospel teachings are faithful to “such saviours as Dionysius, Osiris, Horus, Tammuz, Adonis, Atys, Orpheus, Mithras, Zoroaster, Krishna, Buddha, Hercules… even Platon and Pythagore”.
- He also use the book: the pagan Christ (Tom Harpur) as one inspiration for what he writes.
- John comes from Alexandria, a place where there was a huge library of more than 500 000 books. John knew Egyptian writings. “He only had to add one historical character and place it in a Jewish historical context for his Gospel”
- He says that Egyptian myths see one divine presence in human beings; he links Horus and Jesus; the name Iusu or Iusa was found on tombs of many of their dead.
- The origin of a “messiah” (a character of the type of a messiah or something) can be found in writing 3 500 before Jesus-Christ.
- Since the last 40 years, the excavations done in the Holy Land doesn’t confirm the biblical texts. He says we can read: "the Bible unearthed, Israel Finkelstein and Neil Silberman (Touchstone, 2002) and Excavating Jesus, John Dominic Crossan and Jonathan L. Reed (Harper, 2001).
- Then he says Christmas is a myth. He asking what we think: is the birth of Jesus-Christ a myth or one historical fact? and he doesn’t want to hear what the Church says but what we think.
- To doubt is natural and necessary in our spiritual life (he destroy what the Bible truly is and the Holy Catholic Church). But in other places he makes parallel of the Gospel teachings with other teachings, and tells the Gospel is profound.
- At the beginning there was two sides in the Christian community: the Roman Catholics who believed in the sacred writings as historical, the other as if one allegory. The first group named itself Roman Catholics since the fourth century after the Concil of Nicea. They selected the Gospels in circulation. They added the resurrection to Marc and the three others were corrected.
- there’s apparently 2 000 letters of people that witnessed to the resurrection, but only 2% of the people could read and write at that time. The four Gospel containt the Egyptian thoughts and some of their words.
- Wouldn’t all the Gospels be thoughts of different groups?
- Why the Christian authority (religious people) burnt and destroyed books and controled the human thinkings until Vatican II? The Spanish priests during the 16th century destroyed the writings and documents that wasn’t according to their beliefs.
- Gerald Massey in his book: the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Mysteries of Amenta says that the Egyptian book of the dead “is the pre-christian word of God” and is dedicated to Râ “as the inspiring holy spirit”.
- For them stars are spirits, St Paul has the same belief.
- He compares the resurrection believed by the Egyptian and the Catholics. He says that knowledge was the key to attain the resurrection, a child died in its body. The Catholics have created the Limbo for children. After death, the “mature” soul would go to a place called Amanta to be purified. Egyptian didn’t believe in the resurrection of the body.
- They had a judgment day when the soul of a person was judged according to its acts on the earth. The word of Râ was the “resurrection and the life” (p. 5 of the previous book, I assume). It is similar to what St Paul says when he says that only faith in Jesus Christ can save. St James preached good acts and faith. The group of St Paul and St James always disagreed. St James died in the hands of the group of St Paul. This information is found in the book of Robert Eisenman, James the BROTHER OF JESUS. (to be continued in my next post)
