I was talking to Scott who implied that there was something wrong with destigmatizing homosexuality.
Accepting and normalizing are two different things. Per Church teachings, homosexuality is basically a disorder. A disorder is not normal and normalizing it causes damage itself. If you normalize something, you are basically encouraging them to act on it. Normalize alcoholism, for example, and alcoholics will happily hit the bars because their addiction to booze is considered normal.
You’ve just displayed the virtue of Fortitude. :tiphat:
Christianity is not Christianity without the New Testament, and Catholicism is not Catholicism without the Church. Although the Catholic Church teaches that homosexuality is a disorder, the Church also teaches that we all struggle with sin and must imitate Christ in how we treat others.
Such things are not fixed, but are a function of current politics. At one time, homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. At the rate we are going, pedophilia may be the next protected sexual orientation. In any case, homosexuality is intrinsically disorder and contrary to the law of nature. This is basic Catholic teaching.
That explains his emotional outburst and his mixing of the two issues of bullying and homosexuality.My favorite part is the part about the speaker and “his” “husband.”
I think that Freud was a neurologist who became a shaman, a man with an amazing talent at cultivating those he treated. The theory he developed form his own experience is, however, culture-bound. Amazing that the views of a derationated Jew of Vienna, who turned to given therapy when his materialistic views of the mind ran into a brick wall, and he had to create an alternative that preserved his atheism should still how sway on the imagination of the West.
But if the speaker was talking about his husband then he was acting out as a ‘gay’… And talking to kids about it is a form of child molestation, right?
So you’re not feeling welcome here because some of us have views that are contrary to yours?I love how everyone ignores and disregards the “compassion, sensitivity, and respect” part of the Catechism. How can you be a good Catholic and follow the Catechism when you ignore those three words.
By calling homosexuals things such as “disgusting” “abomination” “sick” “pedophiles” “pediastrist” you’re violating those very words that YOUR Catechism says.
And don’t give me “The Bible said we could call homosexuals that!”
This is the 21st century and **we live in a society that requires that you offend no one. **
Quite frankly every time I come on here and I see these threads apart of me feels unwelcome and hurt.
And then everyone will instantly say “Oh no not you your celibate!”
Or someone will make a remark about how I’m a troll.
No you didn’t do anything other than prove me right. You ignored my part about Catholics on here ignoring that part of the Catechism which I mentioned. You’re entire post essentially ignored the point I was making.So you’re not feeling welcome here because some of us have views that are contrary to yours?
In regard to the names you accuse previous posters of calling homosexuals:
One poster said he/she found sin (which is Catholic belief about acting on same-sex attraction) disgusting – that was made clear in a subsequent post to clarify the original.
God says sin is an abomination to Him – and various posts clarified that homosexual activity was just one in a list of the sins with this label.
One poster brought up the comparison of two distinct sins: acting on same-sex attraction and acting on pedophilia. That poster was drawing a DISTINCTION between the two groups – not saying one is synonymous with the other! In other words, he/she was saying they are NOT the same thing.
And when you say “pediastrist” are you meaning to say “podiatrist” (foot doctor)? Were you trying to make a joke, or did someone actually use the word “pediastrist”?
Honestly, I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But it just seems you’re trying to read into our comments things that we aren’t saying. If you’re looking for hateful comments about the GLBTT community, there are certainly places where you can that hate – but except for the occasional hateful troll, CAF doesn’t go there.
I don’t know what society you live in, but here in the US our Constitution protects both the right to speak one’s mind and the right to practice one’s religious beliefs. There are, of course, limitations placed on those freedoms – ironically enough, those limits are based on Judeo-Christian beliefs of honesty and the dignity of each person.
Here in the US society may require that we offend no one, but that societal belief is both contrary to the laws of our country and the laws of my faith.
You will undoubtedly tell me that you feel even more unwelcome now because I contradicted your post – but for the sake of truth, I had to take the chance that you might be offended, even if that will get me outsed from “society.”
God bless you, dear one. Stick around, if you like, but don’t expect the Church to change anytime during this thread.
Gertie
Catholics are called to act on the virtues of Prudence, justice, temperance, and fortitude. What you are asking us to do is change our morals to the relativist ideology of tolerance… I will not.
Well, that must have made you feel great, being proven right
Who doesn’t like to be right about things? 
Your accusation that everyone ignores this was followed by what you suggest are specific examples of disrespect, lack of compassion, and lack of sensitivity. I was pointing out that your examples were inaccurate. Apparently I was not clear that my entire post was actually addressing your first concern, that we all ignore the Catechism we profess.
I’m sure I still haven’t adequately addressed your concerns. That’s probably why I only finished the coursework for a doctoral degree but not the dissertation
But seriously, keep trying and maybe eventually I’ll get it.