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I emailed these guys at prophecycode.com to see what their claims are. does anyone who is more theologically schooled than myself have something I can send in return?
Original query-So, you say that the Catholic Church has no authority that was entrusted to it by Christ. Even though in Matt 16:18 Jesus says that Peter is the rock upon which his church would be built. Also he was not inferring anything else because the Aramaic is clearly inferring it. Also We have this from Jesus himself, who promised the apostles and their successors the bishops, the magisterium of the Church: “He who hears you hears me” (Luke 10:16), and “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven” (Matt. 18:18). How do you call our church non-christian and proclaim our Bishops to be working for evil?
REPLY FROM THESE GUYS:
"Because of the wording of this texts, Papal authorities go so far as to say that God is bound by the orders of men. The facts are just the reverse. A study of the Greek tense of this verb renders it like this: “shall have been bound.” In other words, the Spirit prompts us to confirm what has already been decided in heaven. (Just as the Spirit prompted Peter to say Jesus was the Christ.)
The keys of heaven belong to anyone who confesses Jesus as their Messiah. Notice in verse 17, Jesus said “flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.” Jesus–and our confession of Him–is the bedrock upon which the church is built (1 Cor. 3:11). As believers, we are like little stones stacked together upon this solid foundation. Peter–whose name means “stone”–freely admits he is not the only one. “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ” 1 Peter 2:5.
The papacy fulfills the characteristics of the beast because it claims to have powers that only Christ has. For instance, an official Catholic source, The Question and Answer Catholic catechism, says, “All bishops and priests have the power to forgive sins or absolve sins.” Also Reverend John O’Brien in the “The Faith of Millions” makes this statement on the Catholic catechism: “When the pope in his official capacity, with the fullness of his authority, as successor of St. Peter and head of the church on earth, proclaims a doctrine of faith or morals binding on the whole Church, he is preserved from error.” Also, by its actions in attempting to change the ten commandments (dropping the second commandment regarding worshipping images, and changing the sacredness of Sabbath to Sunday) the papacy has tried to take a role that only God should have.
The fact is that the Catholic church has compromised much with tradition and has embraced many non-biblical aspects in its theology. This is freely admitted by the leadership of the Catholic church. Please understand that in sharing these facts of church history we are talking about the system and teachings as defective and not the Catholic people as individuals, many of whom are wonderful Christians. There are many beautiful Catholic Christians, priests, bishops and Cardinals who are truly dedicated to the service of God. But one doesn’t have to go very far back into the Catholic history to see that many Christians were tortured for their faith by this very system. Pope John II publicly apologized for those atrocities in March of 2000. You can see part of his speech which follows.
*Pope John Paul II issued a broad apology last Sunday, March 12, for **sins committed by the church throughout the ages, including those against the Jews. ***
*The apology took the form of a joint confession by the Pope and other cardinals, interspersed by Catholics prayers and gestures. *
*The confession began with the Pope and rotated between him and other cardinals. *
*The following is a near complete text of the confession, with translation provided by the Vatican. Omitted are frequent references to the Deity after the Catholic fashion. *
*The Pope began: *
*“Brothers and Sisters, let us turn with trust to God our Father, who is merciful and compassionate, slow to anger, great in love and fidelity, and ask him to accept the repentance of his people who humbly confess their sins, and to grant them mercy.” *
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Original query-So, you say that the Catholic Church has no authority that was entrusted to it by Christ. Even though in Matt 16:18 Jesus says that Peter is the rock upon which his church would be built. Also he was not inferring anything else because the Aramaic is clearly inferring it. Also We have this from Jesus himself, who promised the apostles and their successors the bishops, the magisterium of the Church: “He who hears you hears me” (Luke 10:16), and “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven” (Matt. 18:18). How do you call our church non-christian and proclaim our Bishops to be working for evil?
REPLY FROM THESE GUYS:
"Because of the wording of this texts, Papal authorities go so far as to say that God is bound by the orders of men. The facts are just the reverse. A study of the Greek tense of this verb renders it like this: “shall have been bound.” In other words, the Spirit prompts us to confirm what has already been decided in heaven. (Just as the Spirit prompted Peter to say Jesus was the Christ.)
The keys of heaven belong to anyone who confesses Jesus as their Messiah. Notice in verse 17, Jesus said “flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.” Jesus–and our confession of Him–is the bedrock upon which the church is built (1 Cor. 3:11). As believers, we are like little stones stacked together upon this solid foundation. Peter–whose name means “stone”–freely admits he is not the only one. “Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ” 1 Peter 2:5.
The papacy fulfills the characteristics of the beast because it claims to have powers that only Christ has. For instance, an official Catholic source, The Question and Answer Catholic catechism, says, “All bishops and priests have the power to forgive sins or absolve sins.” Also Reverend John O’Brien in the “The Faith of Millions” makes this statement on the Catholic catechism: “When the pope in his official capacity, with the fullness of his authority, as successor of St. Peter and head of the church on earth, proclaims a doctrine of faith or morals binding on the whole Church, he is preserved from error.” Also, by its actions in attempting to change the ten commandments (dropping the second commandment regarding worshipping images, and changing the sacredness of Sabbath to Sunday) the papacy has tried to take a role that only God should have.
The fact is that the Catholic church has compromised much with tradition and has embraced many non-biblical aspects in its theology. This is freely admitted by the leadership of the Catholic church. Please understand that in sharing these facts of church history we are talking about the system and teachings as defective and not the Catholic people as individuals, many of whom are wonderful Christians. There are many beautiful Catholic Christians, priests, bishops and Cardinals who are truly dedicated to the service of God. But one doesn’t have to go very far back into the Catholic history to see that many Christians were tortured for their faith by this very system. Pope John II publicly apologized for those atrocities in March of 2000. You can see part of his speech which follows.
*Pope John Paul II issued a broad apology last Sunday, March 12, for **sins committed by the church throughout the ages, including those against the Jews. ***
*The apology took the form of a joint confession by the Pope and other cardinals, interspersed by Catholics prayers and gestures. *
*The confession began with the Pope and rotated between him and other cardinals. *
*The following is a near complete text of the confession, with translation provided by the Vatican. Omitted are frequent references to the Deity after the Catholic fashion. *
*The Pope began: *
*“Brothers and Sisters, let us turn with trust to God our Father, who is merciful and compassionate, slow to anger, great in love and fidelity, and ask him to accept the repentance of his people who humbly confess their sins, and to grant them mercy.” *
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