Any help would be much apreciated

[Teen_Catholic]

Does anyone know where I can find information on deaths while pregnant (I think the word is “prenatal deaths”, but I’m not sure) preventable by abortions. I can only find the vaugest bits of information on the subject.

If any of you are wondering why I would be interested in this information, it is because I’m writing an essay for our local Campaign Life chapter. I’m hoping to discredit sentement that abortions causes a substantial decrease in prenatal deaths (ah, what the heck, I might as well use prenatal). Normally I wouldn’t have gone this route but I remember a forumer posting something about this (I would have searched for it but it was at least a year since I would have seen it…) which seemed to encourage me…

Just to be a little clearer, if anyone knows off-hand about causes of prenatal deaths that could reportedly by cut by abortions that would be dandy. Even dandier would be a second set numbers which would refute the first…

Mucho thanks to anyone who looks for or provides information and I’ll reply very soon…

 

[stbruno]

If you are referring to the maternal mortality rate…that is the death of the mother…perhaps this link can help you. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_death

Definition of Maternal mortality rate

Maternal mortality rate: The number of maternal deaths related to childbearing divided by the number of live births (or by the number of live births + fetal deaths) in that year. The maternal mortality rate in the United States in 1993 (and 1994) was 0.1 per 1,000 live births, or 1 mother dying per 10,000 live births.

If you are looking for infant mortality rate then I would suggest a search for that. March of Dimes might even give out handouts.

 

[Ani_Ibi]

OK. I’ll be right back.

Found it. By the way, do you mean “miscarriages”? Because “abortion” means prenatal death.

 

[Ani_Ibi]

An “abortion” can be spontaneous (natural causes) or elective.

This site will give you the correlation between breast cancer and elective abortion.

rtl-toronto.org/

I do believe that a British physicians association had all sorts of stats on all sorts of correlation. I’ll see if I can find it again. My hard drive died last January.

 

[Ani_Ibi]

OK found something. It wasn’t what I was looking for but it’s what you were asking for:

Go here:

lifeuk.org/learn.php

Click Get the Facts.

Then click Abortion: Physical and Psychological Effects.

 

[Teen_Catholic]

Thanks Ani_lbi and stbruno, I’m looking at the information now.

Thanks for the link Ani_lbi, there is definately alot of stuff I can use there.

I suppose more specifially, I’m not talking about spontaneous abortions. Alot of pro-choice arguments usually lead to, “What if a clinical abortion was needed to save the mothers life?”. I’m trying to find out how often this scenario plays out (Exceedingly rarely I understand), and if there was anyway to save both without killing the unborn (which Ani_lbi’s excellent link seems to believe in almost all cases…)

Once again, thanks for all those who answered, and thanks to the moderator who moved my thread to the proper forum, I must not have been thinking properly last night…

 

[cheese_sdc]

You should also check out information on Ectopic Pregnancies:

ectopicpregnancy.com/facts.htm

"Ectopic pregnancy, also known as a tubal pregnancy, is a potentially life-threatening form of pregnancy in which implantation of the fertilized egg occurs outside the uterus. About 97% of ectopic pregnancies occur in the fallopian tube. The remainder implant in the abdominal cavity, on the ovary, or within the cervix. Heterotopic pregnancies occur in one of these areas, while there is also a pregnancy in the uterus. Approximately 100,000 ectopic pregnancies occur each year. Approximately 1 in 66 women will experience this type of pregnancy. Ectopic pregnancy is a very serious condition. When the pregnancy grows in these abnormal areas, it can easily cause massive, rapid bleeding, and even death."

In this condition, an abortion is often required to save the life of the mother.

 

[1ke]

Teen_Catholic:

Does anyone know where I can find information on deaths while pregnant (I think the word is “prenatal deaths”, but I’m not sure) preventable by abortions. I can only find the vaugest bits of information on the subject.

The term you are looking for is maternal death.

Teen_Catholic:

If any of you are wondering why I would be interested in this information, it is because I’m writing an essay for our local Campaign Life chapter. I’m hoping to discredit sentement that abortions causes a substantial decrease in prenatal deaths (ah, what the heck, I might as well use prenatal). Normally I wouldn’t have gone this route but I remember a forumer posting something about this (I would have searched for it but it was at least a year since I would have seen it…) which seemed to encourage me…

You could try the CDC website, they keep mortality statistics but I doubt that they are of the type you are looking for.

Teen_Catholic:

Just to be a little clearer, if anyone knows off-hand about causes of prenatal deaths that could reportedly by cut by abortions that would be dandy. Even dandier would be a second set numbers which would refute the first…

Mucho thanks to anyone who looks for or provides information and I’ll reply very soon…

I’d suggest you contact American Life League, www.all.org, and they may point you in the right direction.

 

[Teen_Catholic]

Hurray for cheese_cdc! I was looking at Ectopic Pregnancies before I asked this, but I was sure there were more situations in which a vollentary abortion would be a solution.

I’m going to continue looking, but I think I may just not include this. I would have thought Planned Parenthood and their ilk would be standing on the rooftops, proclaiming just how many lives they apparently saved.

Anyways thanks to everyone who helped me out, and if you have anymore information, help would still be appreciated.

Oh and some of the links helped alot in other areas too. Once again, thanks.

 

[tamccrackine]

Just remember in an Ectopic pregnancy, the tube itself is being removed and as a secondary cause, the new life is aborted. Whereas, typically, in an elective abortion to save the life of the mother, there is a viable pregnancy in utero.

Good luck with your information hunt!

 

[Rosalinda]

Priests for Life is a great website with volumes of information. The following is from paragraph 2 of “Answering Pro-Abortion Rhetoric”:

The claim that thousands of women died annually from illegal abortions prior to *Roe *is completely false and cannot be supported by *any *reliable statistical data:

• In 1972, the year prior to legalization, the Centers for Disease Control recorded 39 deaths from illegalabortion, not 5,000 to 10,000.

• Dr. Christopher Tietze, a leading pro-abortion statistician for Planned Parenthood, The Centers for Disease Control, etc., calls the claim of 5,000-10,000 deaths a year prior to legalization “unmitigated nonsense.” Noting that 45,000 women of reproductive age die each year from *all *causes, Tietze states, “It is inconceivable that so large a number as 5,000-10,000 are from one source” (Harvard Divinity School, Kennedy Foundation International Conference on Abortion Washington D.C., 1967. See also *Scientific America, *Vo1.220 [1969] pp.21,23).

There is more. Be sure and read what Dr. Bernard Nathanson has to say as he was one of the founders of NARAL who advocated, taught and performed thousands of abortions before he had a change of heart. His story is an example of how the misguided of today can become the leaders of tomorrow in the pro-life camp.
priestsforlife.org/speakersmanual/ch5answeringproabort.htm#hard

 

[Rosalinda]

Your question is not too clear but if someone is suggesting an abortion is necessary to save the life of a mother you may want to read this article.

**Mrs. Engel: **Does the risk of maternal death increased when the mother is carrying a child with a severe birth disorder?

**Dr. Baggot: **No. Generally speaking, anomalous babies rarely pose any risk to their mothers. Therefore, given the potential mortality of partial birth abortion, spontaneous vaginal delivery is the safest option for these mothers. Even a cesarean section is safer than a partial birth abortion because it permits full exposure of the uterus and all instrumentation is done under direct visualization. As for the child in the womb, there can be no doubt which procedure is best for him. In the case of normal delivery or C-section he will have his moment of love with his parents and perhaps his siblings before he dies. With partial birth abortion, he is delivered as a breech up to his neck, an opening is created in the back of his head, and his brain matter sucked out so as to collapse his skull for delivery through the narrower cervical canal. It is hard to image a more painful or ignominious death for one’s child.

Page 2 of “What Little David Taught Me” also points out the differences in the outcome of the mother who elects to ignore the doctor’s warning about a “horrendous” delivery contrasted with the one who followed the doctor’s advice to abort; suffered trauma to her cervix resulting in five latter miscarriages. Dr. Baggot makes it very clear therapeutic abortion is never in the best interest of the mother and actually increases her risk. This interview is in Adobe Reader format.

michaelfund.org/mod/fileman/files/Winter2k.pdf