Anyone Else Have This Problem?

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Maybe, I need a life. Does anyone else wake up at 2:30 A.M in the morning worrying about the oddest things?This has been happening on and off for the past 4 months. One night I was thinking about how I dropped a ball during a soft ball game when I was in 3rd grade. Crazy. What a thing to worry about.
 
Lillyofthevalley depending on how old you are you could have hit peri-menopause. Odd but that is what happened to me until I got some help from my Gyn. I still have the occassional time when I wake up in the middle of the night like that.

Something else that could be happening is you have some new stress that you are handling really well during the day but your subconscious is trying to work it out. The dropped bal in third grade could be that you forgot to do something and basically “dropped the ball” at work?

Just a few thoughts on this.

BrendaV.
 
I’m not a big believer in dreams telling us much. However I do believe they can tell us that we are struggling with things during our waking moments - although most times I don’t need a dream to tell me that.

For example there are numerous dreams that people have in common when they undergo similar stresses. Talk to enough people and you’ll find more than one that has had a recurrenc of dreams about college exams, or that they suddenly found out at semesters end they had a class on their syllabus that they totally forgot to attend all semester!

And there’s dreams of flying, dreams of falling, even dreams of … ahem :o
 
Black Jaque I wish it were a dream I would be sleeping. I am awake with these weird thoughts at 2:30 a.m and can’t get back to sleep until 4;30.Brenda I hope menopause does not happen at 34. It’s possible though.
 
Oh duh! :o

Yeah I wake up with things on my mind, but they are usually applicable to whatever is going on during the day. On the occasions I experience being awake but thinking about “stupid stuff”, I’ve learned to look back on the day and see if I had any excess caffeine.

One time, I had this recurring every night for about a week. Nothing really heavy on my mind - just wide awake, thinking about the stupidest, mundane, should-put-you-right-back-to-sleep things. I then started to think about changes in my diet. Well, my wife picked up a package of Barq’s Root Beer on sale that week. That was the only thing different.

Sure enough, read the label on Barq’s and that is the only root beer with caffeine!!
 
this used to happen a lot during my pms years. I would wake up in the middle of the night, totally unable to sleep, and relive all the most embarrassing or painful incidents of my past life. My solution was to get up and write it all down. These became the kernels of some of my best stories. Once it was written down, I could let go of it, but it took me a long time to find a strategy.

The other thing that helped was figuring out why I woke up in the first place. It often happend while DH was travelling on business or family matters. If I was alone in the house it was almost impossible to sleep. After a lot of help, counselling, treatment for depression, spiritual growth I learned to trust God and let go of a lot of anxiety that was sapping my energy.

I also recently learned that waking up hungry in the middle of the night is an actual disorder, one that should be taken care of by my current medical diet and treatment.
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
Black Jaque I wish it were a dream I would be sleeping. I am awake with these weird thoughts at 2:30 a.m and can’t get back to sleep until 4;30.Brenda I hope menopause does not happen at 34. It’s possible though.
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Dude, if I wake up worrying I hope I dont have menopause! :bigyikes:
 
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Lilyofthevalley:
Black Jaque I wish it were a dream I would be sleeping. I am awake with these weird thoughts at 2:30 a.m and can’t get back to sleep until 4;30.Brenda I hope menopause does not happen at 34. It’s possible though.
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Hmm, interesting. I had similar issues — actually I do have similar issues. I call them panic attacks. I wake up in the middle of the night or early morning stressed or panicked about whatever. When my husband asks me what’s wrong I can’t tell him because I don’t know. Usually it is over something that happened years and years ago. Like your dropping the ball at recess. Also, after social gatherings. I wonder if I said something right or wrong or did I dress appropriate, stand right, drink or eat too much, insult anybody, stand up for who I believe I am…or did I join in the sordid discussion…that sort of thing. I probably sound like I’m psycho, sorry. I was about 35 when I realized I couldn’t go on like this because it was starting up before I went to bed as well. Usually during PMS it is way worse. Head (scalp) starts to burn, stomach turns, my body feels jittering but exhausted and my head won’t shut up! I had to start taking Clonopin when it gets very bad and it really helps. When it is mild I immediately start praying the Our Father and the Hail Mary over and over again, and if that doesn’t help sooth me I take my “little magic pill”. Not every night, but mostly when I’m hormonal. I know medication is not the answer, but if I don’t sleep it gets worse and worse to the point that I throw up and don’t sleep for days on end. I get temperature flashes from cold, freezing cold, to hot, boiling hot and I feel like I’m going to pass out but never do. Thus, the meds. I feel like I have to stop it before it gets to the point of no return.

If your condition worsens, I would suggest seeing your doctor or counselor talk alot with hubby, get more sleep, etc.
 
Also, after social gatherings. I wonder if I said something right or wrong or did I dress appropriate, stand right, drink or eat too much, insult anybody, stand up for who I believe I am…or did I join in the sordid discussion…that sort of thing.

That is exactly what I do too. Except, I worry that I said something to make someone angry with me.
 
Hmmm, Ladies you all sound so much like me when I was in my 30’s. My Gyn. said some of it was peri-menopause (which according to him can last 20+ years!) Anyway, like one of our gentlemen here said, what you eat can indeed cause some of these issues. For me it is wheat and other grains - I can tolerate some but must limit myself to fruits and veggies for my main source of carbohydrates. I do have other food allergies so it didn’t surprise me when I figured it out.

I also have severe PMS which is greatly helped with diet - the no grains helped this a lot! I can usually check my NFP chart and can then say "so that is why I had that horrible insomnia and those awful thoughts about something I did wrong years ago, or a wrong done to me, sometimes those wake me up too!) I do find that praying, and yes, just saying a Rosary without the mysteries helps me (as in I pray one Our Father, ten Hail Mary’s and a Glory Be).

Brenda V.
 
Wow…I’ve been stressings since Tuesday night over saying something to a good friend. A woman I respect and love dearly told me she was exhausted because she excepted a summer position. I told her I was offered a similar position but that my dh asked me not to take it. I left out the fact that he asked me not to take it due to our kids fighting so much right now that it’s not safe to leave them for more than an hour at a time. She looked sad when I said it because her hubby didn’t ask her not to accept it, they needed the money too bad. But she also doesn’t have the same kids safety issue I have…I feel terrible, I need to talk to her, but haven’t as of yet, and I wound up taking my meds last night…now I’m totally out of order.

Some good advice about eating differently. I know when I have even 1/2 a glass of wine I wig out, too, and I never use to. I’ll look into a different diet. Thanks for that suggestion. My mom told me she start pre-menopausal symptoms at my age, as well. I guess I should consider that more closely.
 
Yes Lily. I also wake up—coincidentally around 2:30—and can’t get back to sleep for a couple of hours, worrying myself silly over incidental matters. It’s usually during PMS time. I’ll bet if you check it out, this waking up thing happens more often during the stage of your cycle when progesterone levels are the highest. Once I realized this, I felt a little less stressed about it.

P.S. why don’t all of us 2:30am waker uppers meet here online:D
 
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Giannawannabe:
Yes Lily. I also wake up—coincidentally around 2:30—and can’t get back to sleep for a couple of hours, worrying myself silly over incidental matters. It’s usually during PMS time. I’ll bet if you check it out, this waking up thing happens more often during the stage of your cycle when progesterone levels are the highest. Once I realized this, I felt a little less stressed about it.

P.S. why don’t all of us 2:30am waker uppers meet here online:D
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I have been a “wake-up-in-the-middle-of-the-nighter” myself for years. Make we should start a new sub-forum called: “Sleepless in CAF” (Catholic Answers Forum.) Or maybe we should go deCAF :p. The only problem I can see is that is always 2.30am somewhere in the world. 😃
 
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Sunniva:
I have been a “wake-up-in-the-middle-of-the-nighter” myself for years. Make we should start a new sub-forum called: “Sleepless in CAF” (Catholic Answers Forum.) Or maybe we should go deCAF :p. The only problem I can see is that is always 2.30am somewhere in the world. 😃
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:rotfl: —I love “we should go deCAF!!!”
 
Read two interesting articles on this phenomenon over the years and found them both intriguing-- one from a psychologist-- the other from a priest – can’t remember where however.

Basically the psychologist said that we have unresolved issues and situations regarding “self” and the mind uses specific occasions which we need to address about ourselves – usually they involve embarassing, lost opportunities, etc. that we have pushed back into our memories. Most of these instances however seem to occur at 3AM - people reported waking from a sound sleep with all this “stuff” and “memories” floating around. He was more interested in this 3AM time thing than the actual content - but never resolved why this time was selected by the mind.

The priest put it into a more spiritual framework – he said that his advice to people was to slowly relive the actual incident, often it involves forgiving ourselves, or ridding ourselves of some anger or animosity or embarrassing memory about others, tell God we are sorry for having failed or having judged ourselves or others too harshly and he found that as this was done, these specific incidents vanished from the memory bank in such a prominent manner. He called it God’s “wake up calls”.
He also noted that 3AM seemd “prime time” for these occurrences and he did not have the answer for the timing.
 
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puzzleannie:
this used to happen a lot during my pms years. I would wake up in the middle of the night, totally unable to sleep, and relive all the most embarrassing or painful incidents of my past life. My solution was to get up and write it all down. These became the kernels of some of my best stories. Once it was written down, I could let go of it, but it took me a long time to find a strategy.

The other thing that helped was figuring out why I woke up in the first place. It often happend while DH was travelling on business or family matters. If I was alone in the house it was almost impossible to sleep. After a lot of help, counselling, treatment for depression, spiritual growth I learned to trust God and let go of a lot of anxiety that was sapping my energy.

I also recently learned that waking up hungry in the middle of the night is an actual disorder, one that should be taken care of by my current medical diet and treatment.
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Yes, worrying and thinking of the past and sins already forgiven is a major one. How can someone free himself/herself from this as in my friend’s case?
 
I always see things that I do at work when I am in bed…work…ugh… 8 hours during the day is enough.
 
Waking up in the middle of the night worrying about things, preventing a restful night sleep is also one of the hallmark features of clinical depression. Not that I think that everyone who wakes up in the middle of the night is depressed, but I do think it is wise to look more closely to try and understand why these things worry you so much that it keeps you up. Also, it is worth making sure that there aren’t other symptoms that could indicate a clinical depression.
 
I also started doing this when I was in my mid-thirties. My doctor also said it’s common with perim-menopause and that we first start experiencing it 15 or more years earlier than I had thought.

When this happens, I will either get out of bed and read for awhile or reach for my rosary.
 
Generally I have no trouble sleeping.Once in a while however, it is MISERABLE to try to GET and STAY asleep. Mostly I say the Our Father over and over .

~ Kathy ~
 
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