Anyone here who is a Protestant that agrees with Catholic teachings but do not convert?

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ThundersnowIV said:
Non-Catholics are welcome at Mass. Even atheists are welcome. I’m not sure what you mean.
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I guess some parishes have a funny way of showing it, as that has been far from my experience.

I’ve been purposely excluded from church functions because I’m not Catholic, and there was one priest that openly didn’t want anything to do with you when he found out a person wasn’t Catholic. Apparently they didn’t get the memo?
 
Michael68 said:
Many Protestants confuse the reverent silence in the sanctuary as unwelcoming
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Yep, totally not what I’m talking about.

Edit: I’ve been purposely excluded from church functions because I’m not Catholic, and there was one priest that openly didn’t want anything to do with you when he found out a person wasn’t Catholic.
 
TC3033 said:
Yep, totally not what I’m talking about.

Edit: I’ve been purposely excluded from church functions because I’m not Catholic, and there was one priest that openly didn’t want anything to do with you when he found out a person wasn’t Catholic.
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I would find another parish instead of continuing to harp on this one parish
 
Check out the edit 😉

At one parish, all the non-Catholics get a “scarlet letter” on all mailings, in the church mailbox, in the church yearbook, etc… We all get an asterisk by to make sure everyone knew we were different.

Whenever there is a gathering or festival, my wife and kids all get invites. None of the non-Catholic family members in the church get one, nor are we to help. That’s been at two different parishes now.

We had a priest that once he found out you weren’t Catholic, he basically wanted nothing to do with you. My neighbor and I both had interesting initial run in’s with him.

He refused to marry my wife and I, we had to go to another parish for that. Sounds like the parish lost quite a few families due to the way non-Catholic spouses were treated.
 
TC3033 said:
Check out the edit 😉

At one parish, all the non-Catholics get a “scarlet letter” on all mailings, in the church mailbox, in the church yearbook, etc… We all get an asterisk by to make sure everyone knew we were different.

Whenever there is a gathering or festival, my wife and kids all get invites. None of the non-Catholic family members in the church get one, nor are we to help.

We had a priest that once he found out you weren’t Catholic, he basically wanted nothing to do with you. My neighbor and I both had interesting initial run in’s with him.

He refused to marry my wife and I, we had to go to another parish for that. Sounds like the parish lost quite a few families due to the way non-Catholic spouses were treated.
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That’s not the experience in our parish or diocese
 
Hockeygurl said:
I believe that Mary’s assumption is definately possible, I can’t say either way, so I don’t discount it. But the Catholic church says its fact. (I have issues with people saying things are a fact without evidence).
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There is no evidence of Jesus ascension into Heaven either.
 
TC3033 said:
We’re on our 2nd or 3rd, so I’m not “harping” on just one. 😃
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I am very sorry for the experiences you have had.

As a priest, it just underscores how very important are the various statements of Pope Francis that rebuke parishes that are not open, welcoming, accommodating, and providing pastoral accompaniment, especially to those on the periphery. One hopes more will listen to him.
 
I agree with most of the teachings, and many stumbling blocks to a lot of Protestants including my fellow Lutherans I have no problem with. I’m discerning whether to RC, EO or stay Lutheran.
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The Marian doctrines. I think many of those make sense to me, actually. After all, she carried the 2nd person of the Trinity in her womb. I have no problem with the teaching that Mary and Joseph never had any other children, either. Why else would Jesus have given her to John on the Cross?

The saints: Part of the communion of saints we recite in the Apostles Creed, the church in heaven, now.

Moral issues: The RC has been proven to be right on those, and while I have a small issue with the way the annulment process goes currently, I think they are right about the big picture as far as Divorce goes. ( I think the Orthodox handle it better)
I think they’re right on artificial contraception, too.

My sticking point is their view of justification. I’m working through these from an Orthodox/RC point of view versus my own Lutheran one…
(BTW I DON"T hold to once saved, always saved or just saying a sinner’s prayer or anything like that.)
One needs to remain steadfast to the end.

I certainly consider them to be fellow Christians, the RC to be part of the body of Christ, and I have found myself in debates with others about their erroneous view of the RC-no they don’t worship Mary, the Pope is infallible in faith and morals, only, and can not contradict something that has already been declared infallible, ect.
 
TC3033 said:
I guess some parishes have a funny way of showing it, as that has been far from my experience.

I’ve been purposely excluded from church functions because I’m not Catholic, and there was one priest that openly didn’t want anything to do with you when he found out a person wasn’t Catholic. Apparently they didn’t get the memo?
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We could say much the same about the Orthodox, including the fact that they do not admit us to receive the Eucharist.
 
TC3033 said:
Check out the edit 😉

At one parish, all the non-Catholics get a “scarlet letter” on all mailings, in the church mailbox, in the church yearbook, etc… We all get an asterisk by to make sure everyone knew we were different.

Whenever there is a gathering or festival, my wife and kids all get invites. None of the non-Catholic family members in the church get one, nor are we to help. That’s been at two different parishes now.

We had a priest that once he found out you weren’t Catholic, he basically wanted nothing to do with you. My neighbor and I both had interesting initial run in’s with him.

He refused to marry my wife and I, we had to go to another parish for that. Sounds like the parish lost quite a few families due to the way non-Catholic spouses were treated.
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Glad to hear that: standing up for NC spouses indicates that they’ve got conscience.
 
Vanny said:
My sticking point is their view of justification. I’m working through these from an Orthodox/RC point of view versus my own Lutheran one…
(BTW I DON"T hold to once saved, always saved or just saying a sinner’s prayer or anything like that.)
One needs to remain steadfast to the end.
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Have you seen Fr. Cantalamessa’s Advent sermons from 2005? Here’s part of one. Pope Benedict/Ratzinger has also gone surprisingly far toward Luther at times.

I presume you’ve probably looked at the Joint Declaration on Justification?

Edwin
 
Don_Ruggero said:
I am very sorry for the experiences you have had.

As a priest, it just underscores how very important are the various statements of Pope Francis that rebuke parishes that are not open, welcoming, accommodating, and providing pastoral accompaniment, especially to those on the periphery. One hopes more will listen to him.
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I think it’s a case of “the best defense is a good offense”: sadly, I have found that a lot of so-called “traditionalist” Catholics, at least online, prefer to put Popes on trial than listen to them.
 
Peter_J said:
I think it’s a case of “the best defense is a good offense”: sadly, I have found that a lot of so-called “traditionalist” Catholics, at least online, prefer to put Popes on trial than listen to them.
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Our parish prays the “Jubilee Year of Mercy Prayer of Pope Francis” every Sunday Mass and here is a quote from it

“You willed that your ministers would also be clothed in weakness in order that they may feel compassion for those in ignorance and error: let everyone who approaches them feel sought after, loved, and forgiven by God”

Every person, Catholic or not, should feel welcome!
 
Contarini said:
Have you seen Fr. Cantalamessa’s Advent sermons from 2005? Here’s part of one. Pope Benedict/Ratzinger has also gone surprisingly far toward Luther at times.

I presume you’ve probably looked at the Joint Declaration on Justification?

Edwin
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Haven’t read the whole document but have looked at summaries and that is very encouraging! I have to read through the whole thing.
Yes I have heard that about Benedict/Ratzinger being sympathetic to Lutheranism.
 
souldiver said:
I think Protestants fear Catholicism being subject by conspiracy theories and all. I wonder who are hugely different.
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I cannot yet reconcile universal jurisdiction of the pope with scripture and the early Tradition of the Church. Any other issues I may have are minor by comparison .

Jon
 
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