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anon16282382
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Can someone give me the scoop on this guy/ whether Catholics are prudent in listening to him, and what you like about him if you do like him. Or what you don’t like. Thanks.
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RolandThompsonGunner
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I’ve listened to him before, although I don’t regularly. I agree with him on some stuff, not on others.
He’s a pretty smart guy, though very doctrinaire. But I mean, there’s no particular reason not to listen to him.
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JulianN
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After watching his “debunking racism” video, which was so rife with error and false assumptions that it would be laughable if the subject were not so serious, I can safely say no, I won’t be listening to him.
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0Scarlett_nidiyilii
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He’s usually pretty good.
The debunking racism video, however, he went off the rails, which surprised me.
The debunking racism video, however, he went off the rails, which surprised me.
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sealabeag
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I used to be a complete Shapiro fanboy, I’ve watched countless hours of his YouTube videos. My take on him:
Pros: He really helped me with my critical thinking and logic, as well as debate. He is erudite, articulate and approaches his topics with logic and reason, facts and statistics. On many issues he helped me cut through my emotions and preconceptions and get at the facts of the matter. I’m inclined to be more of a “feeler” than a “thinker”, by a margin, and he’s the opposite, and we definitely need to be challenged to grow in our weaker areas. He’s very, very good on abortion and other conservative topics, so he’s a useful resource if you are engaged in debates with friends, etc.
Cons: In saying all of the above, I haven’t watched him in a long time, for various reasons. My going off him began when he appeared on the BBC on Andrew Marr’s show. I really like Andrew Marr, I’d consider him a conservative and I think that’s how he’d identify. He’s just a rare breed - an unbiased, serious presenter on BBC’s political shows. Anyway, Shapiro was being interviewed by him and he (Shapiro) just started reacting extremely defensively and petulantly to Marr’s questions. You can find the video on YouTube. It was actually ironic, because had Shapiro only realised, even though Marr was asking tough questions, he very possibly actually agreed with him. I guess what happened Ben is that he’s so used to the BBC’s leftist bias that he assumed this was just another presenter like that.
Also, Ben is not a Catholic, or Christian, he is Jewish. Which is totally fine, but don’t expect a Christian perspective. He is also, in my opinion, on the negative side of the conservative spectrum. He can be inclined to be an apologist for conservative politics and governments, even when they are in the wrong. I’m pretty sure he approves of the dropping of the nuclear bombs on Japan. Also, his channel, the daily wire, has gone down the more tabloid, divisive style of journalism, with clickbaity titles and typical alt-right labelling of the other side. I hate that style of journalism and politics. It breeds division.
I could say a lot more but that’s a few ramblings.
Oh yeah, and his wife’s a doctor.
(In joke. You’ll get it if you watch his stuff.
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Pros: He really helped me with my critical thinking and logic, as well as debate. He is erudite, articulate and approaches his topics with logic and reason, facts and statistics. On many issues he helped me cut through my emotions and preconceptions and get at the facts of the matter. I’m inclined to be more of a “feeler” than a “thinker”, by a margin, and he’s the opposite, and we definitely need to be challenged to grow in our weaker areas. He’s very, very good on abortion and other conservative topics, so he’s a useful resource if you are engaged in debates with friends, etc.
Cons: In saying all of the above, I haven’t watched him in a long time, for various reasons. My going off him began when he appeared on the BBC on Andrew Marr’s show. I really like Andrew Marr, I’d consider him a conservative and I think that’s how he’d identify. He’s just a rare breed - an unbiased, serious presenter on BBC’s political shows. Anyway, Shapiro was being interviewed by him and he (Shapiro) just started reacting extremely defensively and petulantly to Marr’s questions. You can find the video on YouTube. It was actually ironic, because had Shapiro only realised, even though Marr was asking tough questions, he very possibly actually agreed with him. I guess what happened Ben is that he’s so used to the BBC’s leftist bias that he assumed this was just another presenter like that.
Also, Ben is not a Catholic, or Christian, he is Jewish. Which is totally fine, but don’t expect a Christian perspective. He is also, in my opinion, on the negative side of the conservative spectrum. He can be inclined to be an apologist for conservative politics and governments, even when they are in the wrong. I’m pretty sure he approves of the dropping of the nuclear bombs on Japan. Also, his channel, the daily wire, has gone down the more tabloid, divisive style of journalism, with clickbaity titles and typical alt-right labelling of the other side. I hate that style of journalism and politics. It breeds division.
I could say a lot more but that’s a few ramblings.
Oh yeah, and his wife’s a doctor.
(In joke. You’ll get it if you watch his stuff.
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ZemD
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I enjoy listening to him. He is very intelligent, he generally makes very reasoned arguments and is about as anti-abortion as you can be. He is not Catholic, but has many Catholics who work for him. I don’t always agree with him but I do think he presents a good contrast to the news of the day as opposed to how it’s presented on a mainstream network like NBC.
Tis_Bearself
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I honestly barely heard of this guy until he came out with some “Debunking Racism” video the other day and after that I don’t plan on ever paying any attention to him again.
He’s not my kind of soldier. I don’t think he adds anything positive to the mix.
He’s not my kind of soldier. I don’t think he adds anything positive to the mix.
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1Lord1Faith
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Years ago I remember hearing how reasoned and smart he was supposed to be so I listened to some of his shows over some time. I’ll say that he is very good at what he does, which is getting people to listen to him but, other than that I didn’t find him to be anything other than a Rush Limbaugh type of bloviator. The way he makes his arguments is no different than any other opiner. I remember thinking that he was full of you know what, and that he knows exactly what he’s doing. So, no I wouldn’t listen to him. I really just think he out to make a living.
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Sarcelle
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I agree with some of what he says and disagree with him on others.
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vsedriver
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like anyone in the media I agree with some of the things he says and disagree with others. He does show you have to think critically rather than emotionally. I’ve not seen his ‘debunking racism’ video so can’t comment on that.
TheWryWren
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I have always been more of a Michael Knowles fan myself 
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redbetta
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I used to read The Daily Wire a lot in college and watch his videos. I liked him, but over time, it seems like he was running out of new things to say. Also, his website became less mobile-friendly (sort of fixed now) and his articles went behind a paywall. I watched the first part of his debunking racism video, but didn’t get around to finishing it, so I cannot say anything on it. Also, the guy comes across as really posh and, at times, he is almost as insufferable as the limousine liberals he argues against. I like my social/political commentators to be relatable.
Overall, he makes a lot of good points and can be really funny, but his insight is not worth paying a monthly subscription for.
Overall, he makes a lot of good points and can be really funny, but his insight is not worth paying a monthly subscription for.
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Erundil
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I know that he infuriates people who thinks that are smarter than anyone else (so mostly lefties).
Me personally, I enjoy his really simple ways of approaching questions and problems. Other than this I also like that he’s not afraid to show that he’s Jewish and at the same time defend Christianity occasionally.
Ah and he sometimes talk wayyy too fast
Me personally, I enjoy his really simple ways of approaching questions and problems. Other than this I also like that he’s not afraid to show that he’s Jewish and at the same time defend Christianity occasionally.
Ah and he sometimes talk wayyy too fast
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Horton
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I generally like Ben Shapiro but at times disagree with some things he says. I haven’t heard the “debunking racism” video and honestly mostly I read the Daily Wire on Facebook. He is very conservative but I have seen some negative things regarding the Catholic Church on his Facebook feed.
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Lea101
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I’m familiar with his videos. I think there’s some good and bad things about him. His arguments for abortion and against the alt right movement, for example, are decent. I feel like he’s more open minded than he lets on, at least compared to his conservative counterparts. Imo, his shortcoming is that his patriotism (and dare I say, his privileged life) makes him gloss over certain issues to the point where he simplifies the ‘other’ POV. I do feel like he has a tendency to comment on things he knows little of, like celebrities/pop culture and can be uncharitable towards them based on his ignorance.
This is usually typical of pundits in general, where they seem to have empathy and critical thinking in one area and then nothing in another. You just gotta see which areas they are good at and dismiss the others, I guess. Gun to my head, I’ll choose Ben over the other guys in Daily wire. I still don’t “like” Ben but he does come across as less snobby and a bit more empathetic than the rest.
In general, I’ll advise people to be cautious when they dive into the rabbit hole of pundits. These people pick the worst to report on, and you tend to end up leaving as if you’re 5 minutes away from a civil war, lol.
This is usually typical of pundits in general, where they seem to have empathy and critical thinking in one area and then nothing in another. You just gotta see which areas they are good at and dismiss the others, I guess. Gun to my head, I’ll choose Ben over the other guys in Daily wire. I still don’t “like” Ben but he does come across as less snobby and a bit more empathetic than the rest.
In general, I’ll advise people to be cautious when they dive into the rabbit hole of pundits. These people pick the worst to report on, and you tend to end up leaving as if you’re 5 minutes away from a civil war, lol.
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Pattylt
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I had never listened to him before the thread that discussed his racism video. I don’t know if that one view of him is enough to judge. I certainly think he is deaf to what a lot of blacks themselves describe as examples of systemic racism and he acted like blacks don’t recognize their own problems involved with building wealth, black on black crime, lost educational opportunities, etc. They do discuss these issues as well. They are cognizant of problems within their culture…Ben would have done much better to recognize this rather than ignore it to make his points stronger. So, this may have been a poor example to judge him by. If it’s typical, then he is just rambling about ways to assuage white guilt. Maybe whites need that. I don’t.
If this is the conservative answer to systemic racism…denying there is any…then he needs to reach out to black leaders and learn what they mean by the term and how white conservatives can help.
If this is the conservative answer to systemic racism…denying there is any…then he needs to reach out to black leaders and learn what they mean by the term and how white conservatives can help.
I used to listen to Ben Shapiro a few years ago when he was on a SoCal radio show. He was always very well reasoned. Facts only. But he could come across as “mean”, if you didn’t think logic or Judaism weren’t the only reasons to think or do something. He eventually left that radio show and its media company, did a few other things, and eventually founded the Daily Wire.
I have not seen/heard this debunking racism thing.
I respect most of his logical reasoning. But if you think that people’s perceptions should be taken into account, expect to be angered.
I have not seen/heard this debunking racism thing.
I respect most of his logical reasoning. But if you think that people’s perceptions should be taken into account, expect to be angered.
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