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Slander? Read your history.

It was Catholic doctrine! Abortion was NOT considered murder.

Before Pius IX’ 1869 Papal Enactment, excommunication was only imposed for those abortions of fetuses with souls, i.e. when they became “animated.” It was that enactment that laid the groundwork for the Church’s later position that all abortion is homicide.
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
It was Catholic doctrine! Abortion was NOT considered murder.

Before Pius IX’ 1869 Papal Enactment, excommunication was only imposed for those abortions of fetuses with souls, i.e. when they became “animated.” It was that enactment that laid the groundwork for the Church’s later position that all abortion is homicide.
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Even if this were true, so what? The Catholic Church has always condemned abortion. From the 1st century Church:
The Lord’s Teaching to the Heathen by the Twelve Apostles:
1 There are two ways, one of life and one of death; and between the two ways there is a great difference.

2 Now, this is the way of life:…

The second commandment of the Teaching: “Do not murder; do not commit adultery”; do not corrupt boys; do not fornicate; “do not steal”; do not practice magic; do not go in for sorcery; do not murder a child by abortion or kill a newborn infant.
– Mark L. Chance.
 
Read this article found in Catholic Answers This Rock archives by Jimmy Akin, When Babies Get Their Souls…

catholic.com/thisrock/2002/0203bt.asp
The Didache, one of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament (c. A.D. 70) states, “You shall not procure an abortion, nor destroy a newborn child” (2:1). The *Letter of Barnabas *(c. A.D. 74) states, “You shall not murder a child by procuring abortion; nor, again, shall you destroy it after it is born” (19). Numerous other references in the early Christian writers condemn abortion as murder.
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Lisa4Catholics:
Slander? Read your history.

It was Catholic doctrine! Abortion was NOT considered murder.

Before Pius IX’ 1869 Papal Enactment, excommunication was only imposed for those abortions of fetuses with souls, i.e. when they became “animated.” It was that enactment that laid the groundwork for the Church’s later position that all abortion is homicide.
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The first thing you do is ask for a source. If it sounds like nonsense, it probably is.
The second thing i would argue is that ensoulment was considered to happen at something like 40 days for baby boys and 60 or 80 days for baby girls (according to Thomas Aquinas working with the primitive science of the day). That pretty much means by the time you realize you’re pregnant, the child cannot be aborted because it may be a male and you’d be a murderer. If the person making the above claims can point out any writings that state that abortion is acceptable before ensoulment, i’ll eat my hat, but i’m pretty sure they’re extrapolating arguments from misinformation.
 
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