Apostolicae Curae

[Mrnuggles]

Ok so i have a question. In the AC it claims that Anglican Ordinals at one point lacked an explicit mention of the Sacrificial nature of the priesthood so hence they did not pass their Holy Orders. My question is that pretty much every Ordination Rite of the first 1000 years lacked that mention as well, including all used by Roman Catholics. Some even during the Reformation, Roman Catholics had rites that lacked such a phrase. So by our own argument we lost our Holy Orders?

 

[Vico]

Ok so i have a question. In the AC it claims that Anglican Ordinals at one point lacked an explicit mention of the Sacrificial nature of the priesthood so hence they did not pass their Holy Orders. My question is that pretty much every Ordination Rite of the first 1000 years lacked that mention as well, including all used by Roman Catholics. Some even during the Reformation, Roman Catholics had rites that lacked such a phrase. So by our own argument we lost our Holy Orders?

I think you mean sacramental not sacrificial? Also intention is significant.

Holy Orders, in Catholic Encyclopedia:

From time immemorial a group of ordination rites have been in use in the Catholic Church and in those Oriental schisms which broke away from it in early times, but whose orders it has always recognized as valid.

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a sacrament is truly conferred by the ministry of one who is a heretic or unbaptized, provided the Catholic rite be employed. On the other hand, if the rite be changed, with the manifest intention of introducing another rite not approved by the Church, and of rejecting what the Church does, and what, by the institution of Christ, belongs to the nature of a sacrament, then it is clear that not only is the necessary intention wanting to the sacrament, but that the intention is adverse to, and destructive of, the sacrament."

Smith, S. (1907). Anglican Orders. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01491a.htm

 

[Mrnuggles]

Thank you very much