Apparitions, Sacramentals, Devotions, etc

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I’m just curious. Why is it that it seems every so many years Roman Catholics have a new devotion or apparition or something to that effect, but Eastern Catholics and Orthodox have nothing comparable? I’ve heard about crying icons and the like, but you hear nothing about scapulars or Divine Mercy chaplet, Eucharistic miracles and the like?

If there are some can you enlighten me? If not, I’m curious as to why this may be the case.
 
It’s because schismatics don’t move forward, but backwards, in the spiritual life. It happens as with a boat: if the boat dose not sail forward, the winds will push it back.

The spiritual wealth of and the miracles which God performs through the Catholic Church are a testimony to her Oneness, Holiness, Catholicity, and Apostolicity and her origins in our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. The same Lord who told certain people the exact things they needed to do to live better lives, gives to souls the exact things they need to live better lives, and the same Lord who performed miracles and prophecised future event to show He is God and Messiah, performs miracles and make appareances to souls to show the Church is His Own and He makes the Church.
 
gloria87 said:
I’m just curious. Why is it that it seems every so many years Roman Catholics have a new devotion or apparition or something to that effect, but Eastern Catholics and Orthodox have nothing comparable? I’ve heard about crying icons and the like, but you hear nothing about scapulars or Divine Mercy chaplet, Eucharistic miracles and the like?

If there are some can you enlighten me? If not, I’m curious as to why this may be the case.
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You just haven’t heard of them as there are more Latin Rite Catholics in the world than the Eastern Rite/Orthodox. The Orthodox/Eastern Catholics have their own sacramentals, such as the chotki, and devotions such as to Our Lady of Lebanon.

http://home.earthlink.net/~haywoodm/imageChotkiWood.gif

There are some apparitions/miracles associated with the Orthodox/Eastern Catholics:

Our Lady of Zeitoun

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Our Lady of Assiut

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zeitun-eg.org/assiut.htm

Our Lady of Soufanieh
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Josyp Terelya (Eastern Catholic)

Vision of Mary at Lvov, Ukraine, 1985

Vassula Ryden (disapproved?)

Miracle of the Holy Fire
 
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It’s because schismatics don’t move forward, but backwards, in the spiritual life. It happens as with a boat: if the boat dose not sail forward, the winds will push it back.
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Eastern Catholics aren’t schismatics.
 
The OCA have recently added an akathist to St. Herman of Alaska.

The Ruthenians have composed new propers for Blessed Theodore, and an akathist is an eventuality.

An Akathist to Blessed Theresa of Calcutta is not entirely out of the question, either… I know a hermit who is most inspired by Blessed Theresa.
 
There have been several Akathists to St. Herman of Alaska.

There is also an Akathist in honor of the Sitka Icon of the Theotokos in the OCA cathedral.

A liturgical scholar once remarked that the Western church is “littered with discarded devotions” (his phrase).

Eastern Christianity, especially Orthodoxy, warns against the dangers of spiritual faddism.
 
dixibehr said:
There have been several Akathists to St. Herman of Alaska.

There is also an Akathist in honor of the Sitka Icon of the Theotokos in the OCA cathedral.

A liturgical scholar once remarked that the Western church is “littered with discarded devotions” (his phrase).

Eastern Christianity, especially Orthodoxy, warns against the dangers of spiritual faddism.

As I have mentioned in one of the threads above, Orthodox spirituality is heavily liturgical. Prayerbooks for lay people generally consist of excerpts from the official liturgical books with very few devotional prayers.

Generally, it is felt that the safest spiritual course is rooting the individual Christian’s spiritual life in the official prayers and services of the Church.
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It’s because schismatics don’t move forward, but backwards, in the spiritual life. It happens as with a boat: if the boat dose not sail forward, the winds will push it back.
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That is a very strange statement - if this were true then all of the saints before certain devotions would not have been able to have been fully “forward” in the spiritual life. It prejudges the spiritual life not only of many Christians but also not held by the teaching of the Church.

This would be to also say that Eastern Catholics who do not practice innovative devotions are also “backwards”. We know (and the Church teaches) that is not the case. This is a personal opinion seems contrary to what the Magesterium has taught (c.f. Orientalium Ecclesiarum, Orientale Lumen, etc.). The Church has certainly NOT made any condemnation of the lack in the spirituality or liturgical practices of the Orthodox (and has rather commended those).

Perhaps it is because the tradition is so full, and the active participation of the faithful suffices to not need of so many innovative devotions.

There are apparitions and especially miraculous icons, some of which have their own liturgical commemoration and paraliturgical services (Akafysts, Canons, etc.) dedicated to them.
 
There are actually quite a few miraculous icons that have their own liturgical commemorations and paraliturgical compositions (Akafysts, Canons, etc.). There are also some miraculous events commemorated throughout the year, such a Akathistos Saturday, the Protection of the Mother of God in October, etc.
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I see that an edit I made to my previous post didn’t go through. Without it, my post sounds harsher than I intended.

Byzantine and Orthodox prayerbooks for laity contain extracts from the service books, with relatively few devotional prayers.

The safest way to pray is WITH the Church by the prayers she uses in her public services.

Because this is how we learn what true prayer is.
 
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