Are any large established orders attracting priests/sisters?

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We all know about the huge falloff in vocations among the large established orders underway for decades now.

Some new small orders have started up and are having success but their size is so small it will take a long, long time for them to have any practical effect…

Quoting Father James Downey a former director of the Institue on Religious Life.

“The traditonal orders were huge. It will take time for these smaller ones to grow in numbers to replace those who have strayed from Church teaching and are slowly dying out”.

So, are there any large or moderaltely large orders that are seeing growth?
 
What do you consider large? The Legionaries have 700 ordained and 2500 in various stages formation. (Not all 2500 will be ordained; they may discern at some point they’re not called to the priesthood.) —KCT
 
The website for vocations in the Eastern Province of the Dominicans talks about some of the vocations (Dominicans in the Eastern United States, more or less).

There is the largest class, in thirty-two years, is beginning postulancy in the Eastern Provence. The class is 15 men. They will receive their habits on August 8th-- the feast of St. Dominic. Pray for these men!

It also mentions two ordinations to the diaconate coming this Sept, of whom one was a professor of mine. Pray for those two men also!

It also mentions that the 8 men who began the novitiate last year will be making their simple vows on the feast of the Assumption. Again, prayers would be excellent. 🙂

Enough with the men, though. How about those Dominican nuns! See this link which includes a Today Show piece on the Sisters of the Mary, Mother of the Eucharist who are having booming vocations. Also, the Nashville Sisters are having booming vocations. (Sisters of St. Cecelia.) Definitely watch the video for these sisters!

A great Dominican priest I know calls the sisters the powerhouse of the order. 🙂

-Rob
 
So, are there any large or moderaltely large orders that are seeing growth?
Interesting question… Take a moment to look at this TIME magazine article from 1952:

time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,815956,00.html
25 years ago, there were only 175 American Jesuits in the mission field; today there are 1,022. 25 years ago, the mission territory of the American Jesuits was largely restricted to Alaska, Central America and U.S. Indian reservations. Today their territory includes Japan, the Philippines, the Caroline and Marshall Islands, Ceylon, Nepal, India, China and Iraq.
Think about it… if in the course of 25 years there could be a ten-fold expansion back then, it could still happen today…

New orders could grow to be that large in a quarter decade… By the time of Bl Theresa of Calcutta’s death in 1999, her order was already over 2,500 strong and it is still growing…

Old orders could embrace authentic renewel. FWIW, some of the orders that for the past 20 years have been rather synonomous with being liberal are experiencing a bit of a 1-2-3 punch… 1) the “progressives” are getting grey and retiring 2) some of the younger priests they are ordaining are suprisingly orthodox and 3) some of the provinces they have in Africa and Asia are rather full…

That is right, in some of the orders that are large enough to be more international in character, I have been told that while the US/Western Euro provinces are in decline, some of the Latin/south American/African/Asian provinces are experiencing some appreciable growth.

From: ad2000.com.au/articles/2007/apr2007p4_2500.html
In 2004-2005, the number of religious and diocesan priests grew from 405,891 to 406,411 (a growth of 0.13 percent). However, the distribution of priests differed from continent to continent, with their numbers increasing in Africa and Asia (respectively, by 3.8 percent and 3.55 percent) and falling in Europe and America (by 0.5 percent), and in Oceania (by 1.8 percent).
The numbers of candidates to the priesthood, both diocesan and religious, increased overall, from 113,044 in 2004 to 114,439 in 2005 (an increase of 1.23 percent). Vocations are most numerous in Africa and Asia, but they are falling in Europe and are stationary in Oceania.
If anything, right now we are dealing with the same or similar levels of priests and religous as America was dealing (vocations per capita) with in 1900. We are prone to feel the pinch a little more because unlike our faithful forebearers, we are living with empty convents and monasteries and schools that have been shut down. Buildings that were not built back then are empty now…

Also consider:
The US alone has more priests than the top three Catholic countries combined (41,000 in the US to 37,000 in Brazil, Mexico and the Philippines combined). This makes talk of a “priest shortage” in the US almost laughable, at least in comparison with many countries struggling to care for much larger Catholic populations.
SOURCE: speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=34&idsub=127&id=2427

Did you actually know that there are more diocesan clergy as of 2006 than there were in 1965?

Its true. In 1965 there were 35,925 diocesan priests. in 2006 there were 28,299 diocesan priests for a total of 43,094 diocesan clerics in the service of the Church in the US. Where did those extra 14,795 clerics come from?

The permanant diaconate.

We always forget to mention some of the new movements and vocations in the Church. In the past four decades I believe the US has gone from zero permanant deacons to 14,795+. (As deacons ARE in fact in Holy Orders, while they should not be thought of “mini-priests” or “sub-priets” they in fact ARE clergy. When their number is included, diocesan clergy numbers in the US are actually UP!)

Also, nature abhors a vacuum… Lay groups and apostolates - from the Legion of Mary, Opus Dei, Miles Jesu, Regnum Christi are growing… Lay run Catholic apostolates (like Catholic Answers!) have multiplied. The Catholic homeschooling movement has rapidly grown. Friendly bloggers like Jimmy Akin and a whole host of others are reaching HUGE audiences around the world from the comfort of their home office.

But please bear in mind that a good number of the venerable souls that helped us to acheive the 1965 peak numbers for religous vocations did not belong to only a handful of REALLY large orders. Certainly the Jesuits, the Franciscan family of OFMs, Capuchins, and Conventuals, Benedictines, Augustinians, Carmelites, Dominicans, Salesians, Oblates of Mary Immaculate and the Congregation of Holy Cross were some of the groups that did have some big numbers. But (and I don’t have the statistics anymore, sorry) a lot of much smaller orders always made up the backbone of those large numbers…
 
What do you consider large? The Legionaries have 700 ordained and 2500 in various stages formation. (Not all 2500 will be ordained; they may discern at some point they’re not called to the priesthood.) —KCT
time.com/time/magazine/ar…815956,00.html
25 years ago, there were only 175 American Jesuits in the mission field; today there are 1,022. 25 years ago, the mission territory of the American Jesuits was largely restricted to Alaska, Central America and U.S. Indian reservations. Today their territory includes Japan, the Philippines, the Caroline and Marshall Islands, Ceylon, Nepal, India, China and Iraq.
If the LC grow anywhere close to the rates the Society of Jesus in America did from 1927-1952, It would be very easy to see them having well over 3000 priests in the next 25 years.

Actually it has been interesting to see the one grow in this hemisphere while the other declines… As it stands now, the Society in the US has 3,217 members - priests, brothers, and scholastics.

But does that mean groups like the LC are pushing out the SJ? Not hardly.

While worldwide the Society of Jesus continues to shrink, the largest group of them is in South Asia (4,003 or 20.2 percent of all Jesuits). (Source: companysj.com/sjusa/05-03-22.htm) In Asia an increase in vocations over last year has been - and this has been a longer running trend - 3.55 percent. (Source: ad2000.com.au/articles/2007/apr2007p4_2500.html)).

Should trends continue, it is very possible the new orders will become far more predominate in the “backyards” once firmly held by the “old orders” while the old orders will continue to grow in the “new mission fields”.

Interestingly, some have called the Legionaires the “new Jesuits”… And some have called Fr. Benedict Groeschel’s new order of Franciscans, the future of the Franciscans… (see:ad2000.com.au/articles/2005/apr2005p9_1899.html )

In all irony, 4 centuries ago the same thing was happening in the Church. But back then, it was the Jesuits who were the whipper-snappers, and the Franciscans who were the big dogs. Today both are large and found throught the world. Is it hard to imagine that today’s whipper snappers will be tomorrows big dogs, and today’s big dogs will still be tomorrow’s big dogs?

I don’t think so. Not by a long shot.

I for one, as a Byzantine Catholic especially, relish the thought of this sort of dynamic growth that speaks to the Catholicity of Christ’s Church. There is room for old, room for new, and room for growth.
 
Let’s get some vocabulary straight here:

Reform: changes made from within an order

Renewal: getting back to the charism’s basics from outside

Recollection: bringing together old members to renew the charism

I feel reasonably sure that I’m correct on that. If I’m not, someone please speak up.

I just today had an ex-nun ask if there were any recollection initiatives on anyone’s boards. I didn’t know of any.

Renewals: Cloister Outreach is spearheading a few:

We’re starting with the Cloisterites, which is a renewal of the charism of the Society of Mary Reparatrix:
cloisters.tripod.com/cloisterites/

They will have for their “active” branch the Cenacle Religious of the Renewal:
cloisters.tripod.com/cenacle/

The Cloisterites will renew the following cloistered orders:

Gilbertines: cloisters.tripod.com/gilbertinerenewal/
Romite Teatina: cloisters.tripod.com/teatina/
Magdalen Sisterhood: cloisters.tripod.com/magdalens/

For the active orders, we are renewing the Daughters of Charity, as the Congregation of Charity of the Miraculous Medal, Servants of the Poor, complete with modified cornette:
cloisters.tripod.com/charity

They will be renewing the following charisms:
Religious of Jesus and Mary: cloisters.tripod.com/belanger/
Good Shepherd Sisters: cloisters.tripod.com/goodshep/
Sisters of St. Joseph (MacKillops):
cloisters.tripod.com/mackillop/

ALL OF THESE ARE PROPOSED.

We have 10+ aspirants for the Cloisterites, and 2 for the “Charities,” as we call them.

We have several charisms which will be founded by both the Cloisterites and the Charities. You can review those here:
cloisters.tripod.com/jointfoundations/

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
Thanks for the interesting links. I’ve heard of The Nashville Dominicans but never the sisters of mary, The Mother of The Eucharist. That was quite a video. I will try to get through the rest this weekend but again some very intereting reading/viewing.
 
The Carmelites of Los Angeles (Sacred Heart) have been attracting large numbers of aspirants and postulants for many years. They are a contemplative community of sisters who engage in active work (teaching and nursing). Their community is quite traditional and beautiful.

When I was searching for a community to join many years ago (mid 80’s) I found that the more traditional expressions of older orders were receiving many vocations. The Poor Clares in Cleveland, OH, and Roswell, NM, as well as the Benedictines at the Abbey of Saint Walburga in CO were all receiving inquiries and postulants.

You can find more information on any of these communities through a google search. Sorry I don’t have time to look up the websites for you.

God bless. Enjoy the journey.

Gertie
 
Let’s get some vocabulary straight here:

Reform: changes made from within an order

Renewal: getting back to the charism’s basics from outside

Recollection: bringing together old members to renew the charism

I feel reasonably sure that I’m correct on that. If I’m not, someone please speak up.

I just today had an ex-nun ask if there were any recollection initiatives on anyone’s boards. I didn’t know of any.

Renewals: Cloister Outreach is spearheading a few:

We’re starting with the Cloisterites, which is a renewal of the charism of the Society of Mary Reparatrix:
cloisters.tripod.com/cloisterites/

They will have for their “active” branch the Cenacle Religious of the Renewal:
cloisters.tripod.com/cenacle/

The Cloisterites will renew the following cloistered orders:

Gilbertines: cloisters.tripod.com/gilbertinerenewal/
Romite Teatina: cloisters.tripod.com/teatina/
Magdalen Sisterhood: cloisters.tripod.com/magdalens/

For the active orders, we are renewing the Daughters of Charity, as the Congregation of Charity of the Miraculous Medal, Servants of the Poor, complete with modified cornette:
cloisters.tripod.com/charity

They will be renewing the following charisms:
Religious of Jesus and Mary: cloisters.tripod.com/belanger/
Good Shepherd Sisters: cloisters.tripod.com/goodshep/
Sisters of St. Joseph (MacKillops):
cloisters.tripod.com/mackillop/

ALL OF THESE ARE PROPOSED.

We have 10+ aspirants for the Cloisterites, and 2 for the “Charities,” as we call them.

We have several charisms which will be founded by both the Cloisterites and the Charities. You can review those here:
cloisters.tripod.com/jointfoundations/

Blessings,
Cloisters
Dear Cloisters…do you have any interest shown or potential vocations in Australia. I noted that your St. Joseph Sisters (MacKillops) brach is for indigenous people. I am wondering if there is any interest in founding a contemplative branch (not necessarily Blessed Mary MacKillop’s St. Joseph) in a contemplative way of life in Australia (non indigenous) and if so, how can one contact this foundation or potential foundation?

Blessings - Barb:)
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_14_2.gifiHs
 
Dear Cloisters…do you have any interest shown or potential vocations in Australia. I noted that your St. Joseph Sisters (MacKillops) brach is for indigenous people. I am wondering if there is any interest in founding a contemplative branch (not necessarily Blessed Mary MacKillop’s St. Joseph) in a contemplative way of life in Australia (non indigenous) and if so, how can one contact this foundation or potential foundation?

Blessings - Barb:)
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_14_2.gifiHs
When we say “for Indigenous Peoples,” we’re meaning they will be ministering to the Indigenous Peoples (known as the “Fourth World”). Indigeneous ppls will be permitted to join, but the order isn’t exclusively for them.

There are two aspiring founders from Oz on our Founders Forum, and both are wanting to found contemplative communities. If you PM me, I can send you their email addresses, or vice versa.

HTH.

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
When we say “for Indigenous Peoples,” we’re meaning they will be ministering to the Indigenous Peoples (known as the “Fourth World”). Indigeneous ppls will be permitted to join, but the order isn’t exclusively for them.

There are two aspiring founders from Oz on our Founders Forum, and both are wanting to found contemplative communities. If you PM me, I can send you their email addresses, or vice versa.

HTH.

Blessings,
Cloisters
Thank you, Cloisters…PM on the way. I did think it rather strange that an Order would be specifically for indigenous people.

Blessings - Barb:)
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_14_5.gifiHs
 
Not sure about the size of the Norbertines, but since you mentioned tradition, here’s a post I made in a different thread in their regard:
OnlyAmbrose said:
Closest thing I can think of are the Norbertines. Here’s a link to the website of the abbey I regularly attend:

abbeynews.com

I recommend sending an email to the vocations director, Fr. Justin, if you want more information. His email is on the “Contact info” page.

Here’s the vocations page:

abbeynews.com/vocations/

I go to Holy Hour and adoration as often as I can there, they offer it every night. And it’s as traditional as they come, Latin and all 🙂
And if that doesn’t make you fall in love with the place, here’s some selections from the photo gallery :hypno:

abbeynews.com/gallery/Dscn3599.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/ChurchJungle.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/Christmas2001.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/IndianHillSunrise2.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/abbey.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/procession2.jpg
 
Not sure about the size of the Norbertines, but since you mentioned tradition, here’s a post I made in a different thread in their regard:

And if that doesn’t make you fall in love with the place, here’s some selections from the photo gallery :hypno:

abbeynews.com/gallery/Dscn3599.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/ChurchJungle.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/Christmas2001.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/IndianHillSunrise2.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/abbey.jpg
abbeynews.com/gallery/procession2.jpg
Interesting. There is no “history” section on their website so its hard to tell their charismas beyond the school. Or their size and viability in terms of vocations relative to size. Though that they are expanding the Abbey obvioulsy indicates they are growing.

Is their presence just in SoCal? I read they have a parish in Costa Mesa. Are their others?

If you have any links to an historic view of the Norbetines in SoCal please post them.
 
Interesting. There is no “history” section on their website so its hard to tell their charismas beyond the school. Or their size and viability in terms of vocations relative to size. Though that they are expanding the Abbey obvioulsy indicates they are growing.

Is their presence just in SoCal? I read they have a parish in Costa Mesa. Are their others?

If you have any links to an historic view of the Norbetines in SoCal please post them.
Go to the main website, and click on “newsletters”. The most recent one (July 2007) has a page on the history of the Abbey, if I remember right.

As to other parishes, I couldn’t tell you. I could ask next time I’m there, if you’re interested. I’d also recommend emailing the vocations director, Fr. Justin. His address is on the “contacts” page.

edit- Wikipedia lists only 3 Abbeys in the United States- the one here in SoCal, one in Wisconsin, and one in Penn. Certainly small then, I guess, but they’ve been around since 1180 AD, so you could definitely call them “established”.
 
We all know about the huge falloff in vocations among the large established orders underway for decades now.

Some new small orders have started up and are having success but their size is so small it will take a long, long time for them to have any practical effect…

Quoting Father James Downey a former director of the Institue on Religious Life.

“The traditonal orders were huge. It will take time for these smaller ones to grow in numbers to replace those who have strayed from Church teaching and are slowly dying out”.

So, are there any large or moderaltely large orders that are seeing growth?
Yes, there is a religious order in the Church founded in 1684 (more than three hunred years ago) that is still attracting many vocations. This is the Congregation of the Religious of the Virgin Mary (RVM Sisters). The Congregation was founded by Mother Ignacia del Espiritu Santo in 1684 in Manila, Philippines. Their apostolates are : retreat ministry, Chirstian education (pre-school, elemnetary, secondary and tertiary). They also manages dormitories for girls, seminaries, campus ministry, nursing homes, clinics and hospitals. This year TWENTY ONE (21) young professional women intered postulancy in the order. Please visit them in the world wide web: rvmonline.net

Thank you.

Yggi
 
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