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De_Maria
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The Catholic Answers tract which this person addresses seems to be in error. To say that the term born again “may” not be in the Bible is to question the authority of the Magisterium which has defined it just that way in the Council of Trent.
scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a3.htm#115
Anyway, it is true that the word anothen means both “again” and “from above”.
To quote the article:
But God comes to us in a breeze. Sometimes we are not aware of His Presence, but we must step in faith. We must believe in our hearts that which we can’t see with our eyes or feel with our senses.<<<
My point is, if the Catholic Answer tract is in error please correct it. If not, please explain it.<<<
Sincerely,
De Maria
Have any of you, when looking for the position of the Catholic Church on the matter of being born again, read the article “Are Catholics Born Again?” at catholic.com/library/are_catholics_born_again.asp?
If you have, as you noted the comment, “The term ‘born again’ may not appear in the Bible”, did it bother you that the term not only does appear in the Bible but is found in 1 Peter 1:3 and 23?
What the author should have said is that the term has two meanings. Many words in the Bible have dual or even triple meanings and senses. That is Catholic Teaching:The author of the article may not be aware that the Catholic Church has defined that the Bible says born again.>>>Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God (John 3:5)
(See the Council of Trent, Session VI,
ewtn.com/library/councils/trent6.htm
scborromeo.org/ccc/p1s1c2a3.htm#115
Anyway, it is true that the word anothen means both “again” and “from above”.
To quote the article:
Here is the definition of anothen from the Blue Letter Biblethe term “born again” may not appear in the Bible. The Greek phrase often translated “born again” (gennatha anothen) occurs twice in the Bible—John 3:3 and 3:7—and there is a question of how it should be translated. The Greek word anothen sometimes can be translated “again,” but in the New Testament, it most often means “from above.” In the King James Version, the only two times it is translated “again” are in John 3:3 and 3:7; every other time it is given a different rendering. <<<
In other words, the term gennatha anothen may be translated either “born again” or “born from above”.<<<<<
If we discount that one slip. The rest seems to be correctI’ve wondered whether this author can be taken seriously, you see. The article was provided with a nihil obstat and an imprimatur so the writer seems to be toeing the official line. How could he not know what the first Pope said on the subject?
We consider our feelings fallible. We are fallen men after all. Sometimes we feel and experience of rebirth after having had too much to drink, or partaking in drugs or any other stimulating substance on the market.More especially though, the main point of the article is that it is through baptism that we are born again, not through, eg. responding to an invitation at an evangelistic meeting. If “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:13) might I not also know the experience of rebirth by calling on him to me merciful to me, a sinner, just as the dying thief did and was with Jesus that day in paradise?
But God comes to us in a breeze. Sometimes we are not aware of His Presence, but we must step in faith. We must believe in our hearts that which we can’t see with our eyes or feel with our senses.<<<
I don’t see why not?Hope it’s okay to ask this on my first day here.
chnetwork.org/forums/view_topic.php?id=416&forum_id=15&jump_to=2151#p2151This question was asked and answered on the Coming Home Network.
My point is, if the Catholic Answer tract is in error please correct it. If not, please explain it.<<<
Sincerely,
De Maria