Are some individuals happy without God, family and friends?

[Shino918]

I’m thinking that certain individuals are prone to not choose God in their lifetimes. These people have from an early age a predisposition towards, let’s not call it sin, but perhaps a mindset that focuses on their own well-being. This may come from a lack of proper upbringning, with limits and strictness from the parents’ side, and instead an upbringning where the presents and material gifts the parents give their children are labeled as “love”. It could also be a overly excessive, physical affection the parents show their children, very much as a recompensation for, say, a proper home and a proper upbringning. Thus the parents are as much of a fool as the child is. The child begins to associate these events with “love”, creating a connection between the word and the events in his mind. This predisposition will eventually give birth to an attitude where the child does not understand proper boundaries in life, e.g. in the social life, which makes him not so well liked among his peers. He thinks that “if I wrong someone, I just have to say I am sorry, and it will be alright”. The same goes for the relationship with God.Thus he never feels shame for what he has done wrong. He lacks a discernment of what he should and should not do, because his mindset has, ever since an early age, told him that “life is meant to be enjoyed”. His behaviour makes his peers shun him, because he is impertinent and does not heed social customs. Most importantly he does not love, but rather loves games, fun activities with friends, but he never is really interested in the friends themselves, only the fun that comes with them. Over the years he loses friends, and then questions why they don’t call him or invite him to hang out. He reasons that the fault is theirs and not his, and develops a kind of bitter attitude. He develops a low sense of integrity and low self-esteem. And so he begins a life that is just one self-perpetuating downward spiral, each upcoming failure being dependent on the previous. There is just something about him that is false.
Because this person has never felt real love for his fellow man, how is it possible that he could love someone, even after realizing, not just that his actions were wrong, but that his whole * inner self* or set of mind was wrong? How can he exert something that wasn’t even there from the beginning? Since his nature is so dispositioned towards, or should I say not predispositioned towards, friends, family and God, is it even possible for him to love? Did God create some people wired this way, meant to perish to create a kind of equilibrium for the saved ones?
The best example of this personality is Judas. Or me, author of this thread, because this text has been inspired by my life and by my one-and-consistent character only. Judas did not repent, and so will not someone with this personality trait, because he doesn’t understand what repentance means. Perhaps Judas had a medical condition, Aspergers?
Sorry for messy text, just wanted to word what I had to ask.
What are your thoughts?

 

[Sarcelle]

I’m thinking that certain individuals are prone to not choose God in their lifetimes. These people have from an early age a predisposition towards, let’s not call it sin, but perhaps a mindset that focuses on their own well-being. This may come from a lack of proper upbringning, with limits and strictness from the parents’ side, and instead an upbringning where the presents and material gifts the parents give their children are labeled as “love”. It could also be a overly excessive, physical affection the parents show their children, very much as a recompensation for, say, a proper home and a proper upbringning. Thus the parents are as much of a fool as the child is. The child begins to associate these events with “love”, creating a connection between the word and the events in his mind. This predisposition will eventually give birth to an attitude where the child does not understand proper boundaries in life, e.g. in the social life, which makes him not so well liked among his peers. He thinks that “if I wrong someone, I just have to say I am sorry, and it will be alright”. The same goes for the relationship with God.Thus he never feels shame for what he has done wrong. He lacks a discernment of what he should and should not do, because his mindset has, ever since an early age, told him that “life is meant to be enjoyed”. His behaviour makes his peers shun him, because he is impertinent and does not heed social customs. Most importantly he does not love, but rather loves games, fun activities with friends, but he never is really interested in the friends themselves, only the fun that comes with them. Over the years he loses friends, and then questions why they don’t call him or invite him to hang out. He reasons that the fault is theirs and not his, and develops a kind of bitter attitude. He develops a low sense of integrity and low self-esteem. And so he begins a life that is just one self-perpetuating downward spiral, each upcoming failure being dependent on the previous. There is just something about him that is false.
Because this person has never felt real love for his fellow man, how is it possible that he could love someone, even after realizing, not just that his actions were wrong, but that his whole * inner self* or set of mind was wrong? How can he exert something that wasn’t even there from the beginning? Since his nature is so dispositioned towards, or should I say not predispositioned towards, friends, family and God, is it even possible for him to love? Did God create some people wired this way, meant to perish to create a kind of equilibrium for the saved ones?
The best example of this personality is Judas. Or me, author of this thread, because this text has been inspired by my life and by my one-and-consistent character only. Judas did not repent, and so will not someone with this personality trait, because he doesn’t understand what repentance means. Perhaps Judas had a medical condition, Aspergers?
Sorry for messy text, just wanted to word what I had to ask.
What are your thoughts?

Many of the traits you have described above are associated with sociopaths not people with Aspergers.

Judas did regret what he did to Jesus, but unlike Peter, he gave in to despair.

 

[Shino918]

Many of the traits you have described above are associated with sociopaths not people with Aspergers.

Judas did regret what he did to Jesus, but unlike Peter, he gave in to despair.

Uh yeah, I meant sociopaths, dunno why I wrote Aspergers.

 

[pianistclare]

Paragraphs.
FTW.

 

[Faxero]

The best example of this personality is Judas. Or me, author of this thread, because this text has been inspired by my life and by my one-and-consistent character only. Judas did not repent, and so will not someone with this personality trait, because he doesn’t understand what repentance means. Perhaps Judas had a medical condition

Since you are aware of your anti-social behavior, you have the responsibility to change yourself for the better. Your personal circumstances are sorrowful, but not impossible to escape from. With God, all things are possible.

Old habits die hard, but they must die. :knight2:

Easier said than done, but it must be done.

Did God create some people wired this way, meant to perish to create a kind of equilibrium for the saved ones?

You seem to consider the possibility of pre-destination: which may involve God designing human individuals to end up in Hell. Tim Staples has written an article concerning this kind of thought process. catholic.com/magazine/articles/predestined-for-freedom

Anyhow, my personal circumstances seem similar to yours. Thus, I feel qualified to answer the thread title.

As an individual, I am happy without friends, and unhappy without God and family.

 

[fred_conty]

I would say it is much simpler than the one you described.

God loves everyone. As such he is not going to give up on anyone to their last breath.

Anyone can do good, and anyone can do bad…that is the way we are made…we all have a choice.

Good guys have come from miserable backgrounds, and bad guys have come from execellent backgrounds. This alone tells us that it is about what we decide to do.

We can listen to the devil and evil people, or listen to God and the good people. It is our choice.

As far as psychopaths go, we have to leave that in the hands of God to judge for we don’t really know what pressures they live under which effects their choices.

My own feelings are…it is better to leave the judging to God except in our own case. That way the world will be a lot happier for ourselves mentally and emotionally. And pray for those most in need of help then God will remember us too when we need help.