Are the freemasons still a threat?

[HabemusFrancis]

We all know that the freemasons are anti Catholic. They supported and financed the French revolution and (allegedly) infiltrated the Second Vatican Counsel to try to water down the faith.

As nefarious as they are, are they still a threat? Apparently their memebership is aging fast and they are not getting many recruits.

Ive read their wikipedia page, and it does not seem nefarious as much as merely dull. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry. Pages and pages of material and nary a word on what they actually do! . I see no reason to join it.

Even if they mean the Church ill… are they a threat at this time?

 

[steve93]

I don’t really know much about them.
From what I can gather looking at old protestant connections, they were some sort of pact to ensure the violent death of the monarchs of Europe as some sort of vengeance for the continent not stopping the English overthrow of Scotland (the “Scottish rite”).

 

[animalis]

There is a penalty of excommunication involved in the consideration of joining the freemasons.

 

[steve93]

There is a penalty of excommunication involved in the consideration of joining the freemasons.

I’m well aware of that, the Orthodox have the same law. Especially considering their connections to the Bolsheviks.

 

[dshix]

Are they a threat to those who become involved with them? Of course, yes.

Are they a threat to the world at large? I’m not sure, but I’m inclined to say that they aren’t nearly as much of a threat as they used to be. That doesn’t mean they can’t return to power, though.

 

[steve93]

Are they a threat to those who become involved with them? Of course, yes.

Are they a threat to the world at large? I’m not sure, but I’m inclined to say that they aren’t nearly as much of a threat as they used to be. That doesn’t mean they can’t return to power, though.

How would they return to power in the US? There’s not a single protestant on the supreme court of a protestant country for goodness sake, not saying all protestants were involved with them.

 

[dshix]

How would they return to power in the US? There’s not a single protestant on the supreme court of a protestant country for goodness sake, not saying all protestants were involved with them.

I don’t know. Nor did I say they necessarily would. I just said that it is not impossible.

And for some reason you seem to think that “protestant” countries are the only countries they would be interested in trying to take control of.

 

[Binto]

I think they have roots in Satanism. But it’s nothing to be alarmed about. They have no real power; especially when Christ comes back. And if they did have any serious influence, (given their play in American politics and on the world stage over the last two centuries), nothing truly life or death has happened. I’d not worry.

 

[phil19034]

How would they return to power in the US? There’s not a single protestant on the supreme court of a protestant country for goodness sake, not saying all protestants were involved with them.

Not sure what this has to do with anything…

BTW - Neil Gorsuch is most likely now Protestant. The below is from Wikipedia:

*Neil and his siblings, brother J.J. and sister Stephanie, were raised as Roman Catholics and attended weekly Mass. Neil Gorsuch later attended Georgetown Preparatory School, a Jesuit school in North Bethesda, Maryland, from which he graduated in 1985.

Gorsuch’s wife, Louise, is British-born and the two met while Neil was studying at Oxford. When the couple returned to the United States they started attending an Episcopal parish in Vienna, Virginia. Gorsuch currently attends St. John’s Episcopal Church in Boulder. If Gorsuch considers himself Protestant, his confirmation would make him the first Protestant to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court since the retirement of Justice John Paul Stevens. Gorsuch has not publicly stated if he considers himself a Catholic who attends a Protestant church, or if he has fully converted to Protestantism, but “according to church records, the Gorsuches were members of Holy Comforter”, an Episcopal church.*

 

[steve93]

Not sure what this has to do with anything…

BTW - Neil Gorsuch is most likely now Protestant. The below is from Wikipedia:

*Neil and his siblings, brother J.J. and sister Stephanie, were raised as Roman Catholics and attended weekly Mass. Neil Gorsuch later attended Georgetown Preparatory School, a Jesuit school in North Bethesda, Maryland, from which he graduated in 1985.

Gorsuch’s wife, Louise, is British-born and the two met while Neil was studying at Oxford. When the couple returned to the United States they started attending an Episcopal parish in Vienna, Virginia. Gorsuch currently attends St. John’s Episcopal Church in Boulder. If Gorsuch considers himself Protestant, his confirmation would make him the first Protestant to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court since the retirement of Justice John Paul Stevens. Gorsuch has not publicly stated if he considers himself a Catholic who attends a Protestant church, or if he has fully converted to Protestantism, but “according to church records, the Gorsuches were members of Holy Comforter”, an Episcopal church.*

He can’t even confirm where he attends, if anywhere? Seems very committed.

 

[phil19034]

From my point of view, the Masons have already done a lot of damage through their religious relativism. Their religious relativism has impacted Western Society more than most people can imagine.

I’m not sure if they are still a direct threat to the world or not… most likely the threat that they once were has been indirectly passed on to “new atheists,” socialists, and Hollywood.

But their teachings and oaths are still a direct threat to individual Catholics.

This is a pretty good CD/MP3 regarding why the Masons were and still are a threat to individual Catholics.

lighthousecatholicmedia.org/store/title/st-maximilian-kolbe-and-the-problem-of-freemasonry?promoCode=104867

God Bless

 

[TechieGuy]

He can’t even confirm where he attends, if anywhere? Seems very committed.

Maybe he just chooses not to share that information since it irrelevant, seeing as how:

“… no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

 

[Solomonson]

Yes, to themselves. Like many other fraternal and service organizations, they are quite literally dying out.

One thing really bugs me about freemasonry. One of their subgroups actually has the arrogance to call themselves the Knights of Templar. They claim to descend directly from the KoT which is utter hooey.

This bothers me even more now that the historical KofT has been exonerated by the Church. Thankfully the fake KoT is part of freemasonry that seems to be dying the fastest.