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anhphan
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I hardly understand about it.
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runningdude
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The “Sabbath” was a positive command from God to observe a day of rest and worship on the seventh day of the week. The command was abrogated when Christ died on the cross, completing the work of the Old Testament.
Sunday worship is an obligation of Catholics, implemented by the church to fill the void left by the Sabbath. Sunday is the first day of the week, representing a new beginning in Christ, following his resurrection from the Cross.
Sunday worship is an obligation of Catholics, implemented by the church to fill the void left by the Sabbath. Sunday is the first day of the week, representing a new beginning in Christ, following his resurrection from the Cross.
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Pug
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Yes, there is. The sabbath was the end of the week, when God rested from the first creation. The Lord’s Day, when we celebrate the resurrection, is like the eighth day, the start of a new creation.
Sunday is the fulfillment of the Sabbath.
Sunday is the fulfillment of the Sabbath.
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anhphan
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Was Sabbath changed into Sunday?
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Pug
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If you mean the ceremonial observance of Sunday has replaced the ceremonial observance of the Sabbath, then yes. But if you mean that they are now the same day, then no. They are different days of the week. Sunday is the first day of the week but the Sabbath is the last day of the week.
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Sunday day 1
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Arwing
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Catechism 2175
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anhphan
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Some denominations claim that The Church doesn’t keep the tradition in the Bible.
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HolySpirit1
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I dont get it either, we are told not to pick and choose what we believe, but clearly at some point in Catholic Church History people decided to go from Saturday to Sunday , And Christ wasnt Techincally born on Dec 25th, some places in the US do not officially celebrate Ascension Thursday on a Thursday and have moved it to the following Sunday, some how the Easter Bunny and Santa are now engrained in religious holidays along with Christmas Trees and wreaths and that i think comes from merging different pagan cultures into the Church or turning something Pagan into some thing christian, though not to sure on the easter bunny.
Society changes, and the Church saw that people were being limited so it changed accordingly. is all.
Society changes, and the Church saw that people were being limited so it changed accordingly. is all.
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anhphan
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It’s really hard to understand, and why it was changed is a question to me.
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anhphan
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And what is the difference among Sabbath, Sunday and Saturday?
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Pug
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Because all things are made new in Christ. By his cross and resurrection we have been set free and those in Christ have put off the old man and are a new creation.
Everything changed. The first creation finds its fullness in the new creation in Christ. Perhaps your most helpful option would be to read what the Catechism has to say on this topic. I will provide a link.
However, my past experience tells me that these types of questions are often raised in the context of Seventh Day Adventism or a similar group talking with people. So you might find it more useful to read a pamphlet that addresses it with reference to that angle, if that is the case here. I’m not the best searcher for stuff on websites, but the main parent site here, catholic.com has several relevant articles. Here are two that address the sabbath.
www.catholic.com
www.catholic.com
Everything changed. The first creation finds its fullness in the new creation in Christ. Perhaps your most helpful option would be to read what the Catechism has to say on this topic. I will provide a link.
However, my past experience tells me that these types of questions are often raised in the context of Seventh Day Adventism or a similar group talking with people. So you might find it more useful to read a pamphlet that addresses it with reference to that angle, if that is the case here. I’m not the best searcher for stuff on websites, but the main parent site here, catholic.com has several relevant articles. Here are two that address the sabbath.
The Lord’s Day Replaced the Sabbath
While the Catholics agree with Seventh-day Adventists that Christians are obliged to keep the third commandment, we do not agree the obligatory day of worship is on the seventh day for New Covenant followers of Christ.
From Sabbath to Sunday
When did the Church begin to worship on Sunday instead of Saturday? Did the Church apostatize when it abandoned observance of the traditional Sabbath?
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Tajho
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The Sabbath starts at sundown on Friday making Saturday day of observance. Hence sundown to sundown is a day. Following that, observing Sunday as a holy day can be taken to start on Midnight Sunday or at sundown on Saturday. When the Church observed Sunday as the “day of rest and worship” time keeping wasn’t an exact skill. There were no accurate 24 hour clocks or time zones in the ancient world/society. But, everyone knew when it was sundown. Regardless of how time is determined, the Church then and now identified with Sunday as the day of worship. The fact that the Resurrection was on Sunday definitely reinforced that interpretation.
Also the first few centuries saw a lot of changes in what became the ceremonies of the Church. First gatherings for Mass where private and held in an individuals home. The persecutions would force that practice of seek “secrete” places to celebrate Mass. The slit with Judaism also saw traditions change. This fact alone could have been enough to select Sunday over the Sabbath (Saturday). The Mass format, designated holy days and celebrations of feasts days (more over saints were usually martyrs) came together after the Church became the “state” religion of the Roman Empire through Constantine in the 4th Century.
Also the first few centuries saw a lot of changes in what became the ceremonies of the Church. First gatherings for Mass where private and held in an individuals home. The persecutions would force that practice of seek “secrete” places to celebrate Mass. The slit with Judaism also saw traditions change. This fact alone could have been enough to select Sunday over the Sabbath (Saturday). The Mass format, designated holy days and celebrations of feasts days (more over saints were usually martyrs) came together after the Church became the “state” religion of the Roman Empire through Constantine in the 4th Century.
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dochawk
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That would be the early 1st Century.
Early Christians made the Jewish observances on the Sabbath, and observed the Resurrection on Sunday.
Then we got kicked out of the temples and synagogues–but we were already celebrating the Resurrection on Sunday.
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semper_catholicus
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Yes. The Sabbath is Saturday, and Sunday is Sunday.
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runningdude
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“Observing the Sabbath” is a command to observe a day of rest and prayer on the last day of the week. The Bible doesn’t explicitly document the abrogation of the Sabbath observation, but the Acts of the Apostles documents many similar instances of Old Testament law no longer applying.
We are biblically no more obligated to observe rest on the seventh day than a man is to be circumcised, for instance.
We are biblically no more obligated to observe rest on the seventh day than a man is to be circumcised, for instance.
Not quite. The Sabbath is observed on Saturday, but refers to the ritual rest and prayer and not the day itself. The Jews referred to “Saturday” as the “seventh day”, as they numbered rather than named the days (following the numbering used in Genesis).
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anhphan
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Thank you all very much
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