Are there any orders endangered of going extinct?

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Just curious, are there any religious orders as in entire orders (not just individual convents and monasteries) that are going extinct or are endangered of doing so? Specifically, if I may ask (this is for curiosity’s sake), are there many orders that are growing and flourishing. Specifically, how are the following orders (especially in America and Europe) doing?

Franciscans?
Dominicans?
Carmelites?
Passionists?
Jesuits?

This isn’t so much of a discernment question but a curiosity one.
 
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I guarantee you that none of those orders are going away any time soon in USA, especially since several of the terms you used are so broad (Franciscans for example) they encompass a myriad of different groups.
 
Smaller orders are going extinct on a semi-regular basis.

The large ones are shrinking, but not endangered (at least not yet).

Several years ago, the Jesuits were the only ones reaching their recruiting goals; I don’t know what the status is today. Even they, though, have very few teaching in their schools, and even have lay principals!

hawk
 
Those orders are on solid ground.

Finances and lack of vocations are causing others to close. It seems to be happening to women’s orders more so than men’s orders.

When you have a large number of retired religious that need medical care and can’t produce income, you need a large group of younger vocations to make up the difference.

The orders you mentioned appear to be on solid financial ground.

If you are looking at religious life, you shouldn’t limit your search to the most widely known orders. There are many orders that are not as commonly known that can offer a person a wonderful life and have great finances.

Don’t restrict your search to the biggest. You may miss out on the one that will be the best fit for you.
 
Are you gloomy about the prospects of the Church and her prospects at the moment, or are these types of things which ebb and flow? Are you yourself worried about the orders dying out in the long-run or are these things you would leave to God?

Just to clarify, I’m not an “active” Catholic right now (rather not delve into it) but am someone who is “outside” looking in and hoping for the best in terms of the Church’s prospects.
 
Are you gloomy about the prospects of the Church and her prospects at the moment, or are these types of things which ebb and flow? Are you yourself worried about the orders dying out in the long-run or are these things you would leave to God?
The move has come in tandem with the increased involvement of the laity.

I expect orders to remain around, but not to be as proportionally large as they have been historically.

hawk
 
By Orders, I did mean monastaries and convents but I also know or third or teritary orders, are these the vehicles you are referencing too or more “casual” lay organizations like Knights of Columbus, Legion of Mary, among others? Sorry to press further.
 
lectors, LEMs, readers, parish managers, lay school teachers and so forth.

In general, the laity are filling many roles formerly done by clergy and religious orders, and it is not necessary to join them to fill those roles.

hawk
 
It should be noted, as has been discussed in the Vocations forum where this thread should also probably be (I’ll move it in a minute), that there is lately some tendency among those entering religious life to start their own communities or join one of the small “startup” type communities, rather than just joining the large established orders.

As some smaller orders go extinct, new small orders are being founded.
 
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There is actually a theological reasoning behind religious Orders going ‘extinct’. It has long been recognized that the expansion and reduction of a religious Order is the working of the Holy Spirit, whether the Order likes it or not. Orders serve their members in a communal living out of their Charism, but also provide a font of Grace through that Charism to the greater Church. Both of these aspects must be preserved for the Holy Spirit to sustain a Religious Order. There have been relatively large religous Orders (150+ members) which have been absorbed into other Orders because they no longer provide a unique avenue of grace through their Charism and have simply become one of a number of cookie cutter Orders with the same Charism, while other Orders with very few members are kept alive through what can only be considered the hand of the Holy Spirit. An example can be taken from my own Order’s history. At the turn of the 20th century, the Clerics Regular Minor only had two priests, one solemn professed brother and five simple professed brothers. Despite many Orders being absorbed into others, there was never any talk by the Church to have our Order absorbed because of our unique Charism and action in the Church. Then, by the hand of the Holy Spirit and Our Lady (she had spoken to one of our Founders and said that our Charism was dear to her and it would forever be under her protection), the Order swelled to thrity four priests and nearly fifty religious within a decade and is now one of the fastest growing religious Orders (by percentage) in the world. This is compared to an order we were close with at the time, the Friars Minor (Franciscans) of Penance, who had over 150 members but had simply become one of many generic Franciscan conventual Orders with no distinct charism, were absorbed into the general body of the Conventual Franciscans (O.F.M. Conv.).
 
The Institute of Joan of Arc out of Quebec has gone extinct. The Sisters of St. Joan of Arc are about to end up the same way.

The Sisters Auxiliaries of the Apostolate from West Virginia went extinct.

The Handmaids of Mary Immaculate were suppressed due to a lawsuit.

There are a number of LCWR communities who may be on the verge of suppression, due to dwindling numbers. I know some are sharing common properties.

I know the Holy Spirit will give and take where communities are concerned, but humans can sure help or hinder Him in the process. There’s always been a lot of resistance to His promptings to enter religious life, but that’s our choice. We reap what we sow.

Blessings,
Mrs Cloisters OP
Lay Dominican
http://cloisters.tripod.com/
http://cloisters.tripod.com/charity/
 
Are you concerned over the future or more at peace with it, I can’t help but feel a tinge of despondency in your posts. Or are you saying what appears to be reality to you? How are the Lay Dominicans doing by the way, how do you feel about the future of Third Orders. If you don’t mind me asking, but why aren’t millions in the Lay Orders, or do things not necessarily work that way?
 
I just pray that souls will drop the list and work on their relationship with God. Then, and only then, will they find where they belong. One cannot serve Him whom they don’t know.

Cloistered Vocations have increased in the last 30 years. I’d like to think that my organization had something to do with it, but in all humility, I can’t claim that.

I honestly don’t know what’s going on with the Lay Dominicans where numbers are concerned. I know my own online group usually gets one or two newbies a year. Just here in NC, there are three Lay Fraternities of St Dominic.

I am of the personal opinion that either the Communists had a hand in “updating” the religious communities and got the habit off the street to perpetuate the lie that God is dead, or there was a perfect storm of some sort. The timing was just too perfect.

The future is in God’s hands. The traditional orders are growing. The updated ones are not. Abortion and birth control have caused the literal destruction of Catholic schools. So many congregations were founded to teach. Now they’re dying out for lack of a mission field.
 
Cloistered Vocations have increased in the last 30 years. I’d like to think that my organization had something to do with it, but in all humility, I can’t claim that.
I’ve read articles suggesting it’s because people who join orders are now looking for something more prayerful and contemplative, whereas in the mid-twentieth century, they were joining in order to go out and do something in the world, such as help the poor, be a missionary, teach children, etc. The articles have suggested that women used to join orders as a way of enabling what they saw as a life work in an era when women were pushed to get married and stop working. But women now have more work opportunities open to them, so most of them are joining the cloister to get away from the pressures of the world and not to go change the world through working with the poor or whatever.
 
If they’re entering to get away from the pressures of the world, they prolly won’t last.

Speaking as one who has fielded the complaints of the Laity about the Sisters changing, there are two things that will likely never be forgiven – the group of superiors who signed the letter supporting abortion and birth control, and ditching the habit/obvious external signs of consecration.

Congregations like the St Cecilia Dominicans have chronicled on their websites how carefully they were updated. A French clothing designer told them to keep the long habit or the perfect lines would be destroyed.

The more wretched the world becomes in sin, the more Contemplatives God calls to appease His wrath. Check out what Our Lady of Good Success said about convents and monasteries.
 
I think a world with millions of good, holy folks in monasteries, convents, institutes and lay orders would be a wonderful and beautiful thing. At the same time, I also think there is room for both service and contemplation.
 
The founder of the Albertine Franciscans, whose feast is today, donned a grey Franciscan habit, and lived with the poor in the public homeless shelters. He was eventually permitted to make vows, and he attracted adherents.

There is an interpretation of the Catechism that permits the individual to develop a Personal Prayer Rule, and design a habit. If more people did that, we could have a wonderful witness on the street.

My emerging Vincentian Charism has Actives, Poustiniki, and Recluses.
 
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