Are things getting better or worse?

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The impression I get reading many of the posts on these forums are that many of you feel that things are getting worse and worse.

I hear that peoples morals are getting worse (or non existent), family life is being destroyed, the good old USA has been torturing droves of people in makeshift prisons, and the environment is a major concern.

On the other hand, in the developed world civil liberties are better than they were, people are more tolerant (perhaps), we are coming closer to equality between the sexes, and diseases which were previously a death sentance can now be cured.

What do you think? Are we going nowhere fast, or should we give ourselves a pat on the back for a job well done?
 
As a Nation(USA),We are becoming morally bankrupt.Killing babies,same sex marriages,Divorce,drug addiction,porn “everywhere”,Children being abused,Women being abused.Unity can never be achieved when truth is subjective or comprimised.But there is Hope.When the devil comes in like a flood,the Lord will raise up a standard against him.The gates of hell will not prevail against the Church.I’ve read the book,“WE WIN”.🙂
 
If we read anything about the Roman empire we definitely know that we are better off than the people who lived in Christ’s era. Things are way more publicized now so that the evils are more apparent. We trade evils; like sex on T.V. for killing in the colosseum. Different entertainment for different forums in different times…teachccd
 
Maybe not a matter of better or worse…just different. Certainly traditional moral values are eroding, at least here in the good ole USA.

I’d say there’s no blanket answer to the question. In some ways our society has done wonderful things and in others, taken one step closer to the edge of the Abyss.
 
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Maybe not a matter of better or worse…just different. Certainly traditional moral values are eroding, at least here in the good ole USA.

I’d say there’s no blanket answer to the question. In some ways our society has done wonderful things and in others, taken one step closer to the edge of the Abyss.
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I do not know USA but Europe is neither getting worse or better, early we had problems with communism and fascism, now we change them to feminism (that one which is not about equality but “equality of woman”) and secularism and capitalism.

And it is not like the history is too much better, I would say everything is pretty much as bad as it used to be.
 
Upon looking at my generation and the generation my children live in… I would have to say better. Yes… I said better! I was in the group of people who were not catechized well. I took no initiative to correct this until my children were in school. My kids on the other hand know alot more than I did about the faith at their age. They know the why’s not just the what’s… which I had not a clue about. I see kids with morals and faith… I see kids that WANT to go to mass… it is very heart-warming to see. I pop in at my dd’s school early for mass and find it packed with students… not because they have to be there… because they want to be there. At a school trip we went on… I saw hundreds of kids lined up for reconciliation… it was incredible. It also would never have happened in my day…

I am very proud of my kids… they have had some tough choices to make and they are doing well with them… and they come to me with questions about our faith!

Sure it is easy to say the morals of this age are horrible… but what age? My teens and 20 somethings act much better than the 30 and 40 something generation… that is a good sign to me that getting back to the basics was what this country and Catholics needed.
 
There is an old adage: The more things change, the more they stay the same. Its true. But what we have now…is a system of communication that is beyond what anyone would have believed only 10 or 15 years ago. The web…cellphones smaller than a pack of cigarettes that can call anywhere in the world…phones that can browse the web… and here I sit in High Point, NC posting and conversing with people around the world…but I live in FL…the mobility and ease of communications has flooded our minds via the media and the web with probably more details than we can ever hope to handle.

When I was a child in the 50’s…you had newspapers, TV…in its infancy as a public medium…and hand written letters. No computers…just teletypes and phones. A long distance call was a daunting project even in the US…an Overseas call was often a nightmare…

I can’t say if its better or worse…just that we are exposed to far more by the minute… We have truly suffered a loss of innocence.

Sometimes knowing too much is not a good thing…
 
In general terms I think we are morally worse but materially better off.

I can only compare things to my childhood in the 1960s and you if you ask some questions about conditions then and now you will get your answer.

For example:

Is it safer to walk in your local neigbourhood now compared to 40 years ago. NO

Are people happier than they were 40 years ago. NO (most surveys find that we are generally unhappier now- suicide and depression widespread).

Is family life more important now than then? NO

Are we a more caring and respectful society now? NO

I could go on. There are some good material advances - the internet, access to music and movies, advances in medicine etc

Its not all gloom and doom. The downturn in the western economies just might make people re-assess their value systems.
 
I would say both in different ways. The morality of the culture (of the western “civilizations” seems to have eroded some with there being much less respect for others, a desensitization as to violence, etc. On the other hand, (because of this erosion?) it seems that more people are taking notice (this may be only my personal experience) and are working to correct some of this (example: Ireland’s refusal to go with the EU and allow abortion).
 
Better in some ways, worse in others. We no longer enslave or lynch black people, and while we have a long way to go to eliminate racism, we are trying to eliminate it. We no longer throw pennies at mentally challenged people in the village square, and it was not so long ago (100 -150 years) when this was tolerated. But we do kill the unborn, we do approve of unnatural relationships, and the rich and powerful, in DC, Hollywood, Wall Street and the Church, continue to do whatever it takes to retain wealth and power. Pro dolor.
 
thomfra said:
The impression I get reading many of the posts on these forums are that many of you feel that things are getting worse and worse.

I hear that peoples morals are getting worse (or non existent), family life is being destroyed, the good old USA has been torturing droves of people in makeshift prisons, and the environment is a major concern.

On the other hand, in the developed world civil liberties are better than they were, people are more tolerant (perhaps), we are coming closer to equality between the sexes, and diseases which were previously a death sentance can now be cured.

What do you think? Are we going nowhere fast, or should we give ourselves a pat on the back for a job well done?
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Diversity tolerance is getting better, sexual morality is getting worse.
 
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