Are women allowed to be?

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Genesis 2

21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

This appears to show that the existence of women is intended by God.

Luke 1

30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God. 31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus.

This appears to show God using a woman as part of his plan to redeem the world. I’m not sure if this is related to “begotten not made” since the Son is eternally begotten whereas Mary existed at a particular point in time. But Jesus was clearly carried in a womb and born.

How does this square up with claims that the church is opposed to women?
 
Mother Church isn’t opposed to women.

Women simply can’t perform the same functions as a man in the role of a priest.

If Jesus was a female there’d be a different story and men would be asking the opposite of the OP.

Mother Church is our shepherd and our caretaker. Jesus is the warrior and evil destroyer.

Two different roles, two different genders
 
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22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
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But every time I try to take my rib back, my wife accuses me of tickling . . .

😜:roll_eyes:🤣

From Homer & Jethro, “I want my rib”:


“The gal that I was dancing with, say I told her a fib–she said she caught me seaching, where there wasn’t any rib” . . .
 
It shows that the claim that the Church is opposed to women is a lie.
 
I don’t even understand the question. Of course women are ‘allowed to be’. I’m not sure what you have in mind if women are not ‘allowed to be’. Hopefully not a killing spree.

I don’t think it is remotely controversial to state both that God intended for women to exist and that the Blessed Virgin Mary was chosen by God to fulfil a role in his plan for the salvation of humankind.

As for ‘begotten not made’, I fear that you may be leading yourself up the garden path, since the phrase ‘begotten not made’ is talking about Christ and the Trinity; it is not drawing a contrast between Jesus and His mother. What the Creed is saying is that when we think about the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, Jesus Christ, we need to understand that although he was ‘begotten’, i.e. stands in the relation of a son to a father with regard to God the Father, he was not ‘created’ by the Father. There was never a point in time when the Logos was brought into existence by the Father; both have existed since the beginning. In some mysterious way, which we cannot understand, the existence of the Father and the Son is outside of time. As you rightly say, Jesus then became incarnate and was born of Mary’s body; that was the unique role for which Mary was chosen ever since the moment of her conception.

The Church is not ‘opposed to women’. The Church is not ‘opposed to’ any living creature, male or female, human or non-human.
 
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