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Proving the Eucharist Part II
Now to issue of WHY? When Jesus hung on the Cross He was filled with REGRET! Not for what He had done ,but for what was left undone. The salvation of every man, women, child, past, present and future. Look at the very specific language in verses Jn. 6:31-35, 41,47, [51-55 READ IT!] and 61-64.
When his deciples leave Jesus in unbelief, [v.60] He says to His apostles, NOT; HEY I was just speaking metaphorically. Or I was just kidding, NO! He say’s do you want to leave me to? Does that sound like He was serious, didn’t mean exactly what He said?
God is “all good perfectly”. There were three sacrifices 1. The Incarnation, God for a time becoming a little less than the angels to become our Redeemer. 2. His ministry of three years of rejection, unbelief, even hatred, culminating in His Death and Resurrection for humanities Redemption. [Heb. 9:11-12.] “Redemption is NOT automatic Salvation” thus the absolute need for His Church [Mt. 16:15-19, Eph. 4:4-7.] His seven Sacraments [all of which are only practiced in the Catholic Church, despite the fact that Jesus instituted all of them]. READ [Phil.2:12 -14, Thess. 1:8, James 1:22-25].
We need GRACE, which comes from God. Jesus, desiring to be our Savior as well as Redeemer, makes the greatest of the three sacrifices and freely chooses to abase Himself, subject Himself to the most prolonged, excruciating, humiliating Sacrifice conceivable, by making it possible to offer His Sacrifice on the Cross, again and again [now in His Glorified Body in an unbloody re-presentation, NOT REPRESENATION] for it is actually Jesus Christ made present through the power of the Holy Spirit, using mortal men as His instruments of Divine grace. It is Christ [which means “redeemer”] making the previous Sacrifice’s of Incarnation and Passion and Death, as awesome as they are, falling short of the PRESENT and ungoing Sacrifice, which is motivated by LOVE, as only a Perfect God can do.
Christ endured the first two Sacrifices to Redeem us. God the source of Grace desires to also be the source of our Salvation, and Catholic Holy Communion is Christ Himself, because God knows how much we need grace to accept Christ conditions for Salvation [Mt.19:16, Jn. 3:5, Phil. 2:12 –14] . There can be no Greater, more powerful source of Grace than receiving God into our Bodies and souls in Catholic Holy Communion. And this ONLY from His CC.
**Can God actually do this? Of course God can and does, and now you know why it is true. It really is Jesus, It REALLY IS JESUS! **
Jn.17:18 “As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth.”
Now to issue of WHY? When Jesus hung on the Cross He was filled with REGRET! Not for what He had done ,but for what was left undone. The salvation of every man, women, child, past, present and future. Look at the very specific language in verses Jn. 6:31-35, 41,47, [51-55 READ IT!] and 61-64.
When his deciples leave Jesus in unbelief, [v.60] He says to His apostles, NOT; HEY I was just speaking metaphorically. Or I was just kidding, NO! He say’s do you want to leave me to? Does that sound like He was serious, didn’t mean exactly what He said?
God is “all good perfectly”. There were three sacrifices 1. The Incarnation, God for a time becoming a little less than the angels to become our Redeemer. 2. His ministry of three years of rejection, unbelief, even hatred, culminating in His Death and Resurrection for humanities Redemption. [Heb. 9:11-12.] “Redemption is NOT automatic Salvation” thus the absolute need for His Church [Mt. 16:15-19, Eph. 4:4-7.] His seven Sacraments [all of which are only practiced in the Catholic Church, despite the fact that Jesus instituted all of them]. READ [Phil.2:12 -14, Thess. 1:8, James 1:22-25].
We need GRACE, which comes from God. Jesus, desiring to be our Savior as well as Redeemer, makes the greatest of the three sacrifices and freely chooses to abase Himself, subject Himself to the most prolonged, excruciating, humiliating Sacrifice conceivable, by making it possible to offer His Sacrifice on the Cross, again and again [now in His Glorified Body in an unbloody re-presentation, NOT REPRESENATION] for it is actually Jesus Christ made present through the power of the Holy Spirit, using mortal men as His instruments of Divine grace. It is Christ [which means “redeemer”] making the previous Sacrifice’s of Incarnation and Passion and Death, as awesome as they are, falling short of the PRESENT and ungoing Sacrifice, which is motivated by LOVE, as only a Perfect God can do.
Christ endured the first two Sacrifices to Redeem us. God the source of Grace desires to also be the source of our Salvation, and Catholic Holy Communion is Christ Himself, because God knows how much we need grace to accept Christ conditions for Salvation [Mt.19:16, Jn. 3:5, Phil. 2:12 –14] . There can be no Greater, more powerful source of Grace than receiving God into our Bodies and souls in Catholic Holy Communion. And this ONLY from His CC.
**Can God actually do this? Of course God can and does, and now you know why it is true. It really is Jesus, It REALLY IS JESUS! **
All though well intended, your lack of correct bible understanding is amazing, but seems very often the norm for Protestants, who because of personal interpretation now have in excess of 30,000 different and separate way’s to practice their Faith. This apparent dissension on what the bible actually say’s and means, more than any other cause is the reason for these shocking numbers. There can only be a single truth on any single issue. Jesus Himself states and insures that on all matters of Faith and or Morals that this TRUTH resides in His Catholic Church.On the other hand, it is not difficult to accept the real presence in that Jesus has promised us that he is with us always, that his spirit is present in and around the elements, that communion helps us focus on him, etc.
Jn.17:18 “As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth.”
Christ Himself, say’s it and the early Church knew and PRACTICED it. Jesus is really, truly [physically in His now Glorified body] its neither a mere sign or symbol!However, my emphases in communion are: (1) a celebration of the presence, power and providence of God symbolized in the sacrament;
Protestants celebrate a meal, only a sign or symbol. FIVE NT Bible authors are quoted: THIS IS MY BODY,THIS IS MY BLOOD! Catholics celebrate FIRST a Sacrifice in the format of the Pascal meal. [Mt.26:26-28] TRUTH because Jesus say’s it is, Jesus, is God, Jesus cannot lie!(2) a symbolic feast celebrated together with other Christians at that particular church but also around the world;
and (3) a time and an occasion for reflecting upon our spiritual well-being, examining ourselves to see how closely we are following the commandments of Christ. Are we, for example, ‘in love and charity with our neighbors?’ Are we in need of reconciliation [READ: 1 Jn. 1: 8-10, Jn. 20:21-23, and 1 Jn. 5: 16-17 [/COLOR]for Catholic Teaching because he’s wrong here too. Pjm] as noted in the Sermon on the Mount?
May I respectfully suggest you seek a proper understanding of Mt. 16:15-19, ***note the exclusive use of singular tense words selected by our perfect God to explain what He is doing! ***Still, if Catholics want to regard the real presence of Christ as transubstantiation, so be it. I have no problem with such differences among Christians. God has provided us with brains, and if we adopt a variety of views while seeking to follow Christ, fine with me. My problem is when one group of Christians, whether Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox, claim that they alone embrace the true faith and the rest of us are wrong and less Christian.
This message of Mt. Is amplified in the following from Paul Eph. 4: 4-8 “4 There is one body [Meaning only ONE Church] and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, 5 one Lord, one faith [ONE set of beliefs… Catholic!], one baptism, 6 one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all. 7 But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift”
Love and prayers friend. You’re spirit is good and intentions excellent. But my oh my, you’re understanding is so far removed from what Christ actually said and meant. Hope I didn’t hurt your feelings, which was not my intent.