Assumption of Mary

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

Because we are told in the Sacred Scriptures that Elijah ascended into Heaven. Don’t you think that if God thought it was important enough to mention Elijah he would certainly mention his Mother?. I surly do.

I’m not so sure about that.

The bible is a book primarily about Jesus, and not Mary. I think Elijah is mentioned because he was important to the ministry of Jesus (eg, the Transfiguration).

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[bpbasilphx]

<<ummm, maybe because mary’s assu,ption was never mentioned in the bible. the bible does tell us elijah ascended, also Nob (i think) before noah ascended too (which is in the bible) >>

I don’t know who Nob is. The only two people mentioned having been transalted without death are Elijah and Enoch.

The historical tradition, however, is that the Holy Theotokos died, and some brief time afterwards her body was taken into heaven. No one ever said this was in the Bible. Nobody ever said that the beheading of St. Paul or the inverted crucificixion of St. Peter were in the Bible, either, but most Protestants accept these historical traditions.

 

[Catholic_Mike]

Question - Mary was without original sin, so why would she die? Did the Immaculate Conception simply do for her what Baptism does for us (our nature is still wounded in some way, right? We still die and have the tendency to sin and all that)?

 

[Good_Fella]

Her body was probably hidden to protect it from being stolen

And I suppose the early Christians forgot where they hid her body, right?

We know that Mary was taken body and soul into heaven by the power of her divine Son
because of his own words: “Honour thy father and thy mother. Anyone who curses his
father or mother must be put to death” (Mt 15:4). Jesus obeyed all the Ten Commandments
while he was on earth. He gave no cause for anyone to truly condemn his actions. Nor
did he ever do anything that he himself would disapprove of as the Son of God. Our Lord
could never condemn himself for his actions, for they truly reflected his divine word.
Jesus would never dismiss his own commandment and go back on his word in heaven by
applying the “curse” of Eve on his own mother (Cf. Gen 3:16,19). Jesus meant what he said
about the Fourth Commandment and exemplified with divine perfection and love how we
are to honourably treat our parents, who above all include our spiritual Mother. By denying
the Assumption of Mary, we reject our faith in the perfect love of Jesus, as expressed by a son,
and the immutable truth of his divine Word. Now our Lord cannot break his own commandments
for he never commanded himself to obey them in the first place. But since our Lord has commanded us to follow them, naturally he would consider them worthy of following. Jesus “keeps” his commandments. Mary is in heaven body and soul with her beloved Son.

Pax vobiscum
Good Fella

 

[Good_Fella]

Question - Mary was without original sin, so why would she die? Did the Immaculate Conception simply do for her what Baptism does for us (our nature is still wounded in some way, right? We still die and have the tendency to sin and all that)?

That’s just it! Mary was in no need to be baptized. We have no scriptural account of her having been baptized by John in the river Jordan. Mary was spared Original Sin. The rest of us haven’t been. Our Baptism merely cleanses us of something we were not spared but inherited. We were conceived in a state of Original Sin, Mary wasn’t. And so she was sinless, although like Jesus, she may have been tempted by the devil. Both Jesus and Mary resisted the devil’s temptations with perfection.

Pax vobiscum
Good Fella

 

[Jerry-Jet]

Mary is the Ark of Psalms 132:8!

 

[guardian1]

so what’s the difference between assumption and ascended?

i can’t remember who it was, but an earlier poster said that mary’s assumption is in the bible. where? i don’t remember reading anything like that. the last event in mary’s life that’s recorded in the bible (if i remember correctly, i could very well be wrong) was her being at pentecost.

 

[Charlie_Zeaiter]

so what’s the difference between assumption and ascended?

i can’t remember who it was, but an earlier poster said that mary’s assumption is in the bible. where? i don’t remember reading anything like that. the last event in mary’s life that’s recorded in the bible (if i remember correctly, i could very well be wrong) was her being at pentecost.

I’ll have a go at answering these questions; Somebody correct me if I’m wrong…

Jesus ascended into heaven after He rose from the dead; He was alive. And He did this on His own power.

Mary died; But she was assumed into heaven body and soul. (Legend has it that, after her death, the apostles inspected her tomb and found it to be empty.) She could not do this on her own power; It was God who assumed her.

Mary’s assumption in the bible is an interpretation of Revelations 11:19–12:2. (Don’t be too critical of the chapter break between these verses, because the original writing of Revelations had no chapter and verses.)
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[Mannyfit75]

I’ll have a go at answering these questions; Somebody correct me if I’m wrong…

Jesus ascended into heaven after He rose from the dead; He was alive.

Mary died; But she was assumed into heaven body and soul. (Legend has it that, after her death, the apostles inspected her tomb and found it to be empty.)

Mary’s assumption in the bible is an interpretation of Revelations 11:19–12:2. (Don’t be too critical of the chapter break between these verses, because the original writing of Revelations had no chapter and verses.)
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Some tradition held that Mary died prior to her assumption. The belief in the Dormition attest to this.