Audio Greek New Testament

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Hi Cop,

Tks for the Greek reference. I would not recommend it for two reasons :
  1. it is recited with a heavy English accent, including the gargled “r”. Very distracting and inelegant.
  2. It uses the so-called Erasmian pronunciation, which, if valid at all, only applies to Attic Greek in the classical period. We should favor the Byzantine Greek pronunciation used by the Oriental Churches for Greek of all periods and dialects, including the modern.
It is sad that such a monumental work of love is not acceptable to those who would be most likely to benefit from it, namely Oriental Christians.

Verbum
 
Verbum said:
Hi Cop,

Tks for the Greek reference. I would not recommend it for two reasons :
  1. it is recited with a heavy English accent, including the gargled “r”. Very distracting and inelegant.
  2. It uses the so-called Erasmian pronunciation, which, if valid at all, only applies to Attic Greek in the classical period. We should favor the Byzantine Greek pronunciation used by the Oriental Churches for Greek of all periods and dialects, including the modern.
It is sad that such a monumental work of love is not acceptable to those who would be most likely to benefit from it, namely Oriental Christians.

Verbum
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I learned Biblical Greek with the Erasmian pronunciation, though if I had to do over again I would have given more attention to the modern Greek than what I did. But for me my purpose for studying Greek was to read it, so pronunciation is not much of an issue for me. I’ve studied numerous Greek grammars and have found a lot of differences among them, especially in pronunciation. I guess that’s to be expected when pronunciation is based upon theory, all the more reason to go about it the way you suggested. At this point I don’t see myself trying to relearn pronunciation.
 
Thanks for the link!
I was also reared in the ‘Erasmian’ pronunciation ever since I became aware of the Greek language, but as time went I felt that the Erasmian mode is a bit too stilted and wooden to be natural. I was gradually weaned out of it at my first exposure to Byzantine Chant (hearing the chanters pronounce “ke nyn ke ai ke is tus eonas ton eonon” or “pnevma” was really jolting). Eventually, the final blow for me arrived in the form of this page.

That’s not to say that Mrs. Phemister’s work was worthless; it’s still a very good (and complete!) introduction for the Greek New Testament. She really dedicated herself to recording the NT in her own voice when faced with failing eyesight so she can still have access to it - I wholeheartedly laud her for that. 🙂
 
She probably good at Greek, but she clearly does not have the accent down. This reminds me of a hilarious wikipedia page i saw once for a latin word, and there was an option to listen to the word, and i kid you not, “in a southern american accent”. There is another site I use when I want to learn how to say words in Greek, unfortunately the site is run by an adherent to Arianism, regardless they seem to be decent helding.net/greeklatinaudio/greek/

Does this man’s accent seem realistic?

I used it for an audio-interlinear of John 1 youtube.com/watch?v=E7txpocq6ME
 
Hi Berhane,

The readings from Texas (of all places) are free of any accent, Southern or otherwise, and they use the Byzantine pronunciation.

Verbum
 
patrick457 said:
Thanks for the link!
I was also reared in the ‘Erasmian’ pronunciation ever since I became aware of the Greek language, but as time went I felt that the Erasmian mode is a bit too stilted and wooden to be natural. I was gradually weaned out of it at my first exposure to Byzantine Chant (hearing the chanters pronounce “ke nyn ke ai ke is tus eonas ton eonon” or “pnevma” was really jolting). Eventually, the final blow for me arrived in the form of this page.

That’s not to say that Mrs. Phemister’s work was worthless; it’s still a very good (and complete!) introduction for the Greek New Testament. She really dedicated herself to recording the NT in her own voice when faced with failing eyesight so she can still have access to it - I wholeheartedly laud her for that. 🙂
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I find the work to be nice, I have started to do a chapter a day while following along in my Greek NT. Her pronunciation is very close to how I’ve been taught, so it really works for me! The woman hesitated to provide me with it because there have been some harsh criticism from all angles concerning her pronunication, I really feel sorry for her to have such a backlash, professors are usually the worst for being very unforgiving, I know by experience.
 
What do You think of this resource: iVocab Biblical Greek 2.0 Audiobook CD ROM?
… in combination with the 2009 Learn to Read New Testament Greek 3rd Edition by David Alan Black (Logos 5.1).
I want to learn elementary Gk.
Isn’t Erasmian pronunciation unfortunately the prevailing system in colleges all over the world?
I would like British accent and I’m unsure if the iVocab Biblical Greek 2.0 Audiobook has that.

Later on I’ll be doing formal Gk studies: first, in 2014, classical Gk in uni. (Then theology one year full-time, perhaps split as part-time.) Then Biblical Gk in college.
 
BerhaneSelassie said:
Maybe I mistook the southern american accent for just the plain American accent. I think I was thinking of this one en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glory_Be

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I admit this is a bit off topic – my not having ever been exposed to any specific Greek language, much less preferred pronunciations, at all –

so therefore I freely admit that “this is all Greek to me” –

a woman whose biological heritage is primarily English, German, and Cherokee –

cultural heritage of her Native Land (i.e., I’m a 4th generation San Franciscan as place of birth and other parent’s cultural heritage of the Plains) –

**I’m on my 7th Pope – **

with English as my first language, Spanish as a learned language since junior high, and Latin for a couple of years in high school as well as growing up with Latin as my liturgical language until the Novus Ordo –

I’m fascinated by languages, in general, and so may I offer to the Fine Folk of the CAF →

this resource providing a bit of an understanding of the peculiar and discrete language and pronunciation of some well-known terms in the southern region of the United States.

:coffeeread:
 
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