Baptism of Desire/Blood

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I believe in both Baptism of Desire and of Blood, but just have a few questions.
  1. Is the BoD/BoB a constant and unanimous teaching of the Catholic Church and of the Church Fathers throughout history? If so, are we bound to believe them?
  2. Who is oppossed to this teaching (besides the Dimond Brothers, for example)?
  3. Is the opposition to this teaching new?
  4. Are there saints were were never baptized with water?
 
aball1035 said:
I believe in both Baptism of Desire and of Blood, but just have a few questions.
  1. Is the BoD/BoB a constant and unanimous teaching of the Catholic Church and of the Church Fathers throughout history? If so, are we bound to believe them?
  2. Who is oppossed to this teaching (besides the Dimond Brothers, for example)?
  3. Is the opposition to this teaching new?
  4. Are there saints were were never baptized with water?
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There are two current threads on this topic. You should have a look at them as these same questions are there.
 
mind giving me the link? I looked but couldn’t find them.
 
St Genesius and Baptism of Blood

While St Genesius’ mock baptism on stage was not a valid baptism, the intention to baptize not being present, through his martyrdom he is considered to have been “baptized by blood”. Right from the beginning the Church was faced with the position of those catechumens who were put to death for the Christian faith before being baptized and in this sacrifice she recognized that they were baptized by the very sacrifice of their lives for Christ and his Church.

St Genesius is not the only saint who was baptized by blood: the Holy Innocents whose feast we celebrate on December 28th; St Emerentiana, the foster-sister of St Agnes, was martyred before baptism, as were St Rogatien of Nantes (France) and St Victor of Braga (Portugal) among many other catechumens.

Catholic Catechism
The Church has always held the firm conviction that those who suffer death for the sake of the faith without having received Baptism are baptized by their death for and with Christ. This Baptism of blood, like the desire for Baptism, brings about the fruits of Baptism without being a sacrament. (CCC § 1258)

more info
stgenesius.com/baptismofblood.html
 
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