Baptist Cells, Kent Hovind & Young Earth Creationists

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Greetings Brothers & Sisters,

Some months back A lady I work with at the bakery was going through my notebook to get customer invoices and noticed in the margin I had jotted “The Lord Made Me Hard to Handle”. After getting the invoices she inquired to me if I were a Christian. I chuckled at the question and responded “I’m one of the original Christians deary”. She had this perplexed look on her face, and I added,“I’m Catholic”. So sometime after I run into her and her husband at the A&W and they invite me to watch this video series that “scientifically” explains the origians of the universe going back 6000 years. Well this I had to see being the inquisitive sort and all. So I got my invitation and showed up making the commitment of keeping an open mind and not revealing too much of my reactionary thoughts until I took in the whole series. Well 2 months later of meeting every Wednesday night (except Ash Wednesday) and watching this young Earth…the Lord works in mysterious ways – for if it had not been for them I wouldn’t have been exposed to all this. And of course they are armed with their KJVs and then their was the Chick Tracts, and the writings of Dr John R. Rice, and Trail of Blood by J.M Carroll and my inquistive nature led me to here among other sources and I can only thank them for strengthening my faith in the Church. But I’m sure they must be able to rope in weaker, unstable, ignorant people from time to time with what I saw was misrepresentation, no scientific thoroughness, and accepting literal scripture as inturpretation… and I can almost hear in their minds when I say anything that may sound contratictory “WHORE OF BABYLON!” But I don’t fault them for that, as I said, I can only thank these people, and love them all the more for giving me the exercise of research, and even my preist gave me a copy of the Catechism, and it’s been so awesome. But now I wanna back out, and I’m sure they want to keep me around (perhaps I add a challenge to them) but I don’t want their wasted effort trying to “save” me. I have to assure them I’m saved, I would like to leave on a positive note their church (He actually is running it out of his home) A group of 6 or 7 of them… I’ve managed to bring along a Luthern friend and a Pentecostal friend, but even they aren’t showing up anymore to see the conclusion of the series. I dunno. I don’t want to insult them. They seem so sure of their salvation I just didn’t have the heart to break it to them about Faith, Hope and most important Charity. Is there an eloquant way to part ways, convey my thoughts on the whole experience, my gratitude, etc etc… without upsetting their self-righteous stance? Hmmm…guess not.

But I have to give the Church credit for starting Communism, Islam, Nazism, The Illuminati, The Ku Klux Klan, and the pope is behind crack Jesuit commando teams armed with nija style crucifixes killing in the name of Christ, atc etc… I didn’t think Our Church was that diverse.

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Any help would be appreciated if you know these type of people and how you handled them.
 
btw
the note in the margin of my notebook “The Lord Made Me hard to Handle” was a country tune I was gonna download later
 
Thank them for drawing you closer to the Church, which has brought you closer to God!

They invited you, it wasn’t like you pushed your way in. You don’t owe them any further (name removed by moderator)ut.

Notworthy
 
There’s really not a good way of ending things without upsetting them, for the whole reason they see you being there is that the Lord sent you to them for them to close the deal! You are their project and they are determined to see you saved.

So, you’re not going to get out with everyone smiling and agreeing to disagree.

Maybe you could be honest, thank them for the encounter since the result was that you were encouraged to dig real deep in your studies and it ultimately helped strengthen your existing faith, the faith of your fathers! 😃
 
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empacae:
But I have to give the Church credit for starting Communism, Islam, Nazism, The Illuminati, The Ku Klux Klan, and the pope is behind crack Jesuit commando teams armed with nija style crucifixes killing in the name of Christ, atc etc… I didn’t think Our Church was that diverse.
:yup: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :bigyikes:

Sometimes ya just gotta :banghead: and then :whistle:

Peace

John
 
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empacae:
btw
the note in the margin of my notebook “The Lord Made Me hard to Handle” was a country tune I was gonna download later
I hate that song…

Perhaps it would be best to use Protestant terms with them.

For instance, saying “I believe I’m in a state of grace because I have followed the teachings of Christ and the Church” probably wouldn’t go over well.

You might be better off saying, “I’m saved because I believe in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” These words are probably something they would better understand. At least, I would have when I was a Baptist.

Good Luck! 👍
 
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empacae:
Greetings Brothers & Sisters,

Some months back A lady I work with at the bakery was going through my notebook to get customer invoices and noticed in the margin I had jotted “The Lord Made Me Hard to Handle”. After getting the invoices she inquired to me if I were a Christian. I chuckled at the question and responded “I’m one of the original Christians deary”. She had this perplexed look on her face, and I added,“I’m Catholic”. So sometime after I run into her and her husband at the A&W and they invite me to watch this video series that “scientifically” explains the origians of the universe going back 6000 years. Well this I had to see being the inquisitive sort and all. So I got my invitation and showed up making the commitment of keeping an open mind and not revealing too much of my reactionary thoughts until I took in the whole series. Well 2 months later of meeting every Wednesday night (except Ash Wednesday) and watching this young Earth…the Lord works in mysterious ways – for if it had not been for them I wouldn’t have been exposed to all this. And of course they are armed with their KJVs and then their was the Chick Tracts, and the writings of Dr John R. Rice, and Trail of Blood by J.M Carroll and my inquistive nature led me to here among other sources and I can only thank them for strengthening my faith in the Church. But I’m sure they must be able to rope in weaker, unstable, ignorant people from time to time with what I saw was misrepresentation, no scientific thoroughness, and accepting literal scripture as inturpretation… and I can almost hear in their minds when I say anything that may sound contratictory “WHORE OF BABYLON!” But I don’t fault them for that, as I said, I can only thank these people, and love them all the more for giving me the exercise of research, and even my preist gave me a copy of the Catechism, and it’s been so awesome. But now I wanna back out, and I’m sure they want to keep me around (perhaps I add a challenge to them) but I don’t want their wasted effort trying to “save” me. I have to assure them I’m saved, I would like to leave on a positive note their church (He actually is running it out of his home) A group of 6 or 7 of them… I’ve managed to bring along a Luthern friend and a Pentecostal friend, but even they aren’t showing up anymore to see the conclusion of the series. I dunno. I don’t want to insult them. They seem so sure of their salvation I just didn’t have the heart to break it to them about Faith, Hope and most important Charity. Is there an eloquant way to part ways, convey my thoughts on the whole experience, my gratitude, etc etc… without upsetting their self-righteous stance? Hmmm…guess not.

But I have to give the Church credit for starting Communism, Islam, Nazism, The Illuminati, The Ku Klux Klan, and the pope is behind crack Jesuit commando teams armed with nija style crucifixes killing in the name of Christ, atc etc… I didn’t think Our Church was that diverse.

emp.

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Any help would be appreciated if you know these type of people and how you handled them.
One can only pray. If they are listening to the ilk of Kent Hovind, they are pretty far gone, even for fundamentalists. He is an oft proven fraud, embarassing even other “young earth creationists” (to say nothing of legitimate Baptist groups.)

Blessings,
 
David Zampino:
One can only pray. If they are listening to the ilk of Kent Hovind, they are pretty far gone, even for fundamentalists.
Keep in mind who you are dealing with. These people think you are part of a church that is responsible for starting EVERY evil movement in the last 2000 years.

Part ways graciously. Something along the lines of “thank you for inviting me to your meetings but I will no longer be able to attend.”

Assuming they are gracious they will respect your decision. If they aren’t, just politely but firmly stick with your guns (so to speak). “I appreciate your view; however I disagree with the series’ view about the catholic church.”

If they persist, you can even say, "I’ve looked at what you believe about the church, would you look at (something like Scott Hahn’s conversion story) to see what we really believe? It’s seems only fair. You may even want to start with that offer.
 
What do you usually do with people that impose on you?

Do you politely tell them that you’re not interested?

I would think so.

Best,

Tor
 
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