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Peter_J
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Thanks for the bolded qualifier.
Jon
Thanks for the bolded qualifier.
Jon
Now Iām really confused.So ⦠I say to you āIām not really sure what point youāre trying to make by bringing [Fr. Ray Ryland] upā, and then youāre response to me is āIām unable to understand your point.ā Sounds like a childrenās game.![]()
Would you accept that some groups were heretical or is it always a matter of perspective?I do not know or expect that almost anyone on here will agree but here goes anyway. I do not believe that people like Irenaeus or many others were interested in presenting a fair and balanced perspective of differing groups. Take for example the Paulicians, for so long what we knew of this group was by their sworn opponents. When historian uncovered a Paulician text, the Key of Truth, all of sudden history has looked on them with a different lens. What you call heretical is based upon what people said about them. Their opponents. I do not believe they were presenting objective theological arguments.
Think about the mindset we are talking about here.
If this seems too far removed from reality, that people could so distort reality to their own perspective spend a little time now on the politicial blogs and read about Obama. One blog has him portrayed one way that is completely opposed to another blogā¦and this is 2008 when we have the internet and television.
What you loosely term heretical may not in fact be heretical.
I do believe that there were heretical groups when their views are compared to scripture.Would you accept that some groups were heretical or is it always a matter of perspective?
Ok. I just wanted to be sure of that. I figured as much. After all, Gnostics are always gnostics.I do believe that there were heretical groups when their views are compared to scripture.
Snaps! I get it nowā¦the reason āCatholicsā canāt see what you do in the scriptures is because they are not being saved! This is why you have started so many ābible studyā threads, you are trolling around looking for the elect, so you can lift them out of the trap of Catholicism.Even though, there appears to be a greater movement from Protestantism to Roman Catholicism in recent timesā¦there is still a much greater number leaving the Roman Catholic Church for biblical Christianity.It really doesnāt matter who leaves and who comes to a religous community. What matters is the truth as God reveals His authorative truth in the Scriptures alone to those who are being saved.
Sounds to me like someone is a little defensive about looking into what history might actually sayā¦Historical exegesis is not biblical exegesis. Do you consider recorded church history to be in par with Holy Scripture as divine revelation from above?