Becoming a Priest

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Hi!
I feel like I may want to become a priest.
I just had a few questions about Canon Law.
My Mother is a Ukrainian Catholic, and my Father is a Roman Catholic.
I was baptized and made all my sacraments in the Ukrainian Catholic Church.
If I were to become a priest, could I attend the Roman Catholic Seminary, St. Charles Borromeo? Would I need to attend an Eastern Catholic Seminary instead?
Could I celebrate in both rites? What would be required?
I am so confused right now.
Thank you in advance,
Andrew Perrong.
 
Andrew_Perrong said:
Hi!
I feel like I may want to become a priest.
I just had a few questions about Canon Law.
My Mother is a Ukrainian Catholic, and my Father is a Roman Catholic.
I was baptized and made all my sacraments in the Ukrainian Catholic Church.
If I were to become a priest, could I attend the Roman Catholic Seminary, St. Charles Borromeo? Would I need to attend an Eastern Catholic Seminary instead?
Could I celebrate in both rites? What would be required?
I am so confused right now.
Thank you in advance,
Andrew Perrong.
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Well, from what you’ve written, I believe that you are canonically Roman Catholic, not Ukrainian Catholic, even though you were baptized, chrismated, and admitted to Holy Communion in the Ukrainian Catholic Church (the child is enrolled in the particular Church of the father). Do you regularly attend a RC parish or a Ukrainian Catholic parish?
 
He could be either. Check your baptismal records with the Ukrainian Church. They would indicate it there if you were baptized but canonically Roman or not.
 
I usually attend Ukrainian Divine Liturgy. I do go to a Catholic high school, and sometimes attend my Roman Catholic parish because it is closer and more convenient.
 
You will need to talk to your priest or spiritual director anyway as they will help you with the process. You be able to ask them this too.

Best wishes
 
ConstantineTG said:
He could be either. Check your baptismal records with the Ukrainian Church. They would indicate it there if you were baptized but canonically Roman or not.
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I was baptized in a Roman Catholic Church as an infant and the baptismal records do not indicate which Church I belonged to. My father is Byzantine Ruthenian which I am by my because of my father. My mother is Roman Catholic but I was only baptized in the Roman Church due to travel distance to the nearest Byzantine Ruthenian Church.
 
In most cases you do not chose the seminary you attend. You go to the seminary that the diocese (eparchy) you are a candidate with is affiliated with. Same goes for religious.

Sometimes a group may be affiliated with more than one seminary and then you may get to pick.
 
Andrew_Perrong said:
Hi!
I feel like I may want to become a priest.
I just had a few questions about Canon Law.
My Mother is a Ukrainian Catholic, and my Father is a Roman Catholic.
I was baptized and made all my sacraments in the Ukrainian Catholic Church.
If I were to become a priest, could I attend the Roman Catholic Seminary, St. Charles Borromeo? Would I need to attend an Eastern Catholic Seminary instead?
Could I celebrate in both rites? What would be required?
I am so confused right now.
Thank you in advance,
Andrew Perrong.
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Per the canon laws (CIC and CCEO), the infant that is baptised is enrolled in the ritual Church of the Catholic father, or of the Catholic mother, if they both agree. Enrollment is not based upon the ritual used nor the parish it occurred in, but the ritual should be used of the ritual Church to which the baptised is to be enrolled in.

Can you ask your parents what they decided? There should be a notation in your baptismal records for you to be Ukrainian Catholic or Latin. It would be possible for you to request a transfer of ritual Church if you are age 14 or older.

CIC Can. 111 §1 Through the reception of baptism a child becomes a member of the Latin Church if the parents belong to that Church or, should one of them not belong to it, if they have both by common consent chosen that the child be baptized in the Latin Church: if that common consent is lacking, the child becomes a member of the ritual Church to which the father belongs.

CCEO Canon 29
  1. By virtue of baptism, a child who has not yet completed his fourteenth year of age is enrolled in the Church sui iuris of the Catholic father; or the Church sui iuris of the mother if only the mother is Catholic or if both parents by agreement freely request it, with due regard for particular law established by the Apostolic See.
 
Further to [post=9183107]Vico’ s post[/post], if the parents didn’t discuss the matter beforehand and absent a specific notation to the contrary in the baptismal register, the default position of CCEO Canon 29 applies, i.e., the child is enrolled in the Church of the father.
 
ByzCath said:
I was baptized in a Roman Catholic Church as an infant and the baptismal records do not indicate which Church I belonged to. My father is Byzantine Ruthenian which I am by my because of my father. My mother is Roman Catholic but I was only baptized in the Roman Church due to travel distance to the nearest Byzantine Ruthenian Church.
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My daughter (who was born just this Wednesday 👍) will be baptized in the Ukrainian parish we attend. But because we are still canonically Romans, it will be notated in her baptismal record that she is Roman Catholic.

I think some RC parishes are not to careful about this. Not surprising that they think every Catholic belongs to them.
 
ConstantineTG said:
My daughter (who was born just this Wednesday 👍) will be baptized in the Ukrainian parish we attend. But because we are still canonically Romans, it will be notated in her baptismal record that she is Roman Catholic.

I think some RC parishes are not to careful about this. Not surprising that they think every Catholic belongs to them.
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Congratulations.
 
ConstantineTG said:
My daughter (who was born just this Wednesday 👍) will be baptized in the Ukrainian parish we attend. But because we are still canonically Romans, it will be notated in her baptismal record that she is Roman Catholic
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What blest news! :bounce: Many years!
I think some RC parishes are not to careful about this. Not surprising that they think every Catholic belongs to them.
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From our CCEO:
CCEO Canon 37 Every enrollment in a certain Church sui iuris or transfer to another Church sui iuris should be recorded in the baptismal register of the parish where the baptism was celebrated, even, as the case may be, in a Latin parish; if this cannot be done, it is to be kept by the proper pastor in another document in the archive of the parish of the Church sui iuris of enrollment.
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I’m sure Vico can supply the CIC equivalent. Maybe it’s this:
CIC Can. 535 §1. Each parish is to have parochial registers, that is, those of baptisms, marriages, deaths, and others as prescribed by the conference of bishops or the diocesan bishop. The pastor is to see to it that these registers are accurately inscribed and carefully preserved.
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§2. In the baptismal register are also to be noted confirmation and those things which pertain to the canonical status of the Christian faithful by reason of marriage, without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 1133, of adoption, of the reception of sacred orders, of perpetual profession made in a religious institute, and of change of rite. These notations are always to be noted on a baptismal certificate.
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It goes both ways in my own experience. There are Baptized, never Confirmed, adult Catholics, and Protestants who having then been Chrismated in an Eastern Catholic Church believe they are a member canonically of that Church where the Rite occurred. Both are canonically Latin Church Catholics.

After a number of years working in RCIA and having needed my own records and those of my daughter, all this having occurred in different parishes, I can say that the Church is not as good a record keeper as Catholics imagine it to be. Orthodox friends, including clergy, have said the same is true for Orthodox Churches.
 
5Loaves said:
It goes both ways in my own experience. There are Baptized, never Confirmed, adult Catholics, and Protestants who having then been Chrismated in an Eastern Catholic Church believe they are a member canonically of that Church where the Rite occurred. Both are canonically Latin Church Catholics.

After a number of years working in RCIA and having needed my own records and those of my daughter, all this having occurred in different parishes, I can say that the Church is not as good a record keeper as Catholics imagine it to be. Orthodox friends, including clergy, have said the same is true for Orthodox Churches.
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Good point. If one wants to become a Byzantine Rite priest (of one of the 14 sui juris) then one should talk to their bishop about it. If they are a regular member of the parish and it turns out they are from the Latin Rite, the bishop I’m sure will help the person work out that issue. There are many men who get ordained into a different rite. What is important is that the guy has been attending the parish for years and has shown that in spirit he does belong to that sui juris and follow its traditions faithfully.
 
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