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Mystophilus
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Orange Order parade + Catholic neighbourhood + police = bad witness. Note the location: al Jazeera.net
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adnauseum
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Mystophilus said:
I won’t grace Al Jazeera with a visit.
BBC says protestants are out of control assaulting police.
Sad.
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Eden
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Mystophilus said:
Looks like all news sources hold the Orange Order accountable:
cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/11/nireland.riots.reut/index.html
“The Orange Order must bear substantial responsibility for this. They publicly called people on to the streets. I think if you do that, you cannot then abdicate responsibility,” Orde said.
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,169046,00.html
“There can be no ambiguity or excuse for breaking the law. All those with influence in the community, including the Orange Order and unionist politicians, must condemn this violence and give their full support to the PSNI.”
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4235278.stm
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Semper_Fi_1
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Shouldn’t they be placed on the list of organizations supporting terrorism? I know the IRA is (rightfully so), so why aren’t they?
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Mystophilus
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Semper Fi:
The problem, of course, lies in identifying the members of the groups.
The Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF), Orange Volunteers, Red Hand Defenders (RHD), and the Ulster Defence Association (a.k.a. Ulster Freedom Fighters) are on the SDGT list (p4) of groups which support terrorism, as are the Real IRA and the Continuity IRA, which are also on the FTO list, which covers currently active terrorist groups.
The problem, of course, lies in identifying the members of the groups.
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allhers
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Add them to and keep them all in your daily prayers. When will we all learn to listen to Our Lady and pray for peace?
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STIOFAN
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Semper Fi:
We had ceasefires before, but then hey-presto a new group appeared, one was D.A.D.D, (direct action against drugs) it was just the IRA using a cover name, even the dogs in the street knew it.(a few drug dealers were taken out)
Some of the rioting is started by youths with nothing else to do, I’ve even heard in the past of people starting riots because they were bored.
It’s just more of the same, but some of those involved can expect an early wake-up call, because riot police and army now have everything on video, so arrests will follow.
Here in the west, it’s peaceful, these things flare up from time to time, but like the dust they settle once again.
The problem is this society can’t deal with the over 2000 marches we have from June up to September and beyond, what society could.
We Catholics see it as coat trailing and nothing else, but now Catholics residents don’t want them ramming their bigorty down our throats.
Anyway unless we have a quota of marches this problem will flare up, I don’t know how any society can deal with 4 or 5 months marching, this provence is just too small, and Catholics are on the increase, and many don’t want them in their area.
Yes we do have area’s, it shouldn’t be like this but that’s the way it is, Belfast is a hotbed for violence, we have Protestant east Belfast, and then Catholic west, with a so-called peace wall deviding them.
Anyway I’ve lived like this for 47 years and i’m used to it, but things are better here, but from time to time we get this violence flaring up.
But it will soon be knock knock for some, and arrests will follow, violence only breeds more violence, and many will pay the price with doing time.
And yes people in positions of responsability have to accept the blame for calling people on to the streets, but not one of them will do an ounce of time, it’s always the idiot that does time, while these Pied Pipers get off the hook. (Listen and read all about it here) myweb.tiscali.co.uk/pictorialireland/page4.html
Well you can ban them all if you like, but one problem is, they change their name.
We had ceasefires before, but then hey-presto a new group appeared, one was D.A.D.D, (direct action against drugs) it was just the IRA using a cover name, even the dogs in the street knew it.(a few drug dealers were taken out)
Some of the rioting is started by youths with nothing else to do, I’ve even heard in the past of people starting riots because they were bored.
It’s just more of the same, but some of those involved can expect an early wake-up call, because riot police and army now have everything on video, so arrests will follow.
Here in the west, it’s peaceful, these things flare up from time to time, but like the dust they settle once again.
The problem is this society can’t deal with the over 2000 marches we have from June up to September and beyond, what society could.
We Catholics see it as coat trailing and nothing else, but now Catholics residents don’t want them ramming their bigorty down our throats.
Anyway unless we have a quota of marches this problem will flare up, I don’t know how any society can deal with 4 or 5 months marching, this provence is just too small, and Catholics are on the increase, and many don’t want them in their area.
Yes we do have area’s, it shouldn’t be like this but that’s the way it is, Belfast is a hotbed for violence, we have Protestant east Belfast, and then Catholic west, with a so-called peace wall deviding them.
Anyway I’ve lived like this for 47 years and i’m used to it, but things are better here, but from time to time we get this violence flaring up.
But it will soon be knock knock for some, and arrests will follow, violence only breeds more violence, and many will pay the price with doing time.
And yes people in positions of responsability have to accept the blame for calling people on to the streets, but not one of them will do an ounce of time, it’s always the idiot that does time, while these Pied Pipers get off the hook. (Listen and read all about it here) myweb.tiscali.co.uk/pictorialireland/page4.html
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