Bible accused of rape, incest, murder, & slavery

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So, I came across this video on youtube, ‘gay exorsism on tyra’ and I commented, forgot what I said though. Anyway Someone replied about how the bible is evil, here what they pointed out:

"rape: (Judges 21:10-24 NLT) So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do,“ they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.”

“slavery: However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)”

“Incest :Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father Genesis 19:32-36 also the link below also relates to genocide”

“and im waiting for your explanation on the genocide because i am confident there is no reasoning behind that that will make that acceptable, even in those times.”

I told this person SO many times that he should research these bible versus and the meanings behind them, because he does not understand them. But he wanted MY opinion, he singled me out and I told him I am not ready for that, i am very young & I was just telling him the answers are all over the internet & I don’t want to have to quote them for him. I told him to ask these on this very website but he keeps bringing it back to me and my opinion on it. It’s like he expects every single Christian, young & old, to have exact answers to every bible verse. Of course I haven’t read the whole bible, though I am working on it.

If you could please help me, it just really upsets me that so many people bash God as if he were evil and cruel :’(

He will not come here, so if you could go there I would love to watch & learn more of the meanings behind these versus’s, I haven’t even come to them yet and even I am confused about them.

Look back on the comments, on page 3 or 4, you will see someone named GOOdGuyGreg1 and probably a lot of others, who have stated these bibles versus a lot

Youtube video:
youtube.com/watch?v=wXcWygr8vEM
 
rape: - God preserved the young women and made them take them as wives. It wasn’t rape, it was sparing their lives because they were innocent. Women were a possession then. They didn’t have to save them. They could have done the opposite, and raped them and then killed them. Instead God made sure that not only were these women taken back, but were given a life among his people.

slavery: The culture in which these people lived had slavery as a reality. God gave them rules to govern having a slave, that they had to treat them right. Even giving them the day off on Saturday when everyone else had the day off.

incest: the bible condemns incest. That’s where what they call genocide comes in. The moabites et al were enemies to Israel after that, BECAUSE they were the incestuous offspring and as such under the curse.

In the first two cases it was God being merciful to someone who normally there was no mercy for. Slaves were normally just an object, to be treated however one wanted to. God made rules on slavery, including that you couldn’t take your brother into slavery. In the case that someone is calling rape, God made those people part of his chosen people… that’s an act of love, not evil.

In the last one, it was not God being evil but two girls ‘date’ raping their own father, and then their children being responsible for that sin. It was their own evil deed, not God, that condemned them.
 
Thank you 🙂

Could you possibly click on the link and post these answers there? There are many people bringing up many different verses’s then these ones.
 
rape: - God preserved the young women and made them take them as wives. It wasn’t rape, it was sparing their lives because they were innocent. Women were a possession then. They didn’t have to save them. They could have done the opposite, and raped them and then killed them. **Instead God made sure that not only were these women taken back, but were given a life among his people. **
slavery: The culture in which these people lived had slavery as a reality. God gave them rules to govern having a slave, that they had to treat them right. Even giving them the day off on Saturday when everyone else had the day off.

incest: the bible condemns incest. That’s where what they call genocide comes in. The moabites et al were enemies to Israel after that, BECAUSE they were the incestuous offspring and as such under the curse.

In the first two cases it was God being merciful to someone who normally there was no mercy for. Slaves were normally just an object, to be treated however one wanted to. God made rules on slavery, including that you couldn’t take your brother into slavery. In the case that someone is calling rape, **God made those people part of his chosen people… that’s an act of love, not evil. **
In the last one, it was not God being evil but two girls ‘date’ raping their own father, and then their children being responsible for that sin. It was their own evil deed, not God, that condemned them.
More moral relativism.
Its okay when God’s Chosen People do it, but when anyone else rapes, enslaves, and murders its a sin:rolleyes:
 
More moral relativism.
Its okay when God’s Chosen People do it, but when anyone else rapes, enslaves, and murders its a sin:rolleyes:
Men do bad things. God’s chosen people were men. They indeed made mistakes. As the bible puts it, men do bad things because of the hardness of their hearts. The problem is you see it as God saying “well it’s ok, because everyone else is doing it” and I see it as a loving God going, you have free will so you can do what you want, but I’m not gonna make some rules when you do it to make you learn that you can’t just treat people however you want.
 
Rape, incest, and murder are all condemned in the Bible however genocide is not. in fact God calls his people to preform genocide on several occasions and when they fail to do so he punishes them. But bear in mind that God is not unjust in this act he is justified in destroying the world after we sinned but rather he chose to have patience and loved us enough to send a redeemer.
 
Rape, incest, and murder are all condemned in the Bible however genocide is not. in fact God calls his people to preform genocide on several occasions and when they fail to do so he punishes them. But bear in mind that God is not unjust in this act he is justified in destroying the world after we sinned but rather he chose to have patience and loved us enough to send a redeemer.
It’s helpful to realize that all of the people God calls for genocide on are not just random individuals. They are descendants of people who have been cursed by their actions. Many from the very incestual relationships that are condemned.
 
Agreed but it does occur even without those factors any sin is deserving of death so God is just in wiping out anyone he wants.
 
It’s helpful to realize that all of the people God calls for genocide on are not just random individuals. They are descendants of people who have been cursed by their actions. Many from the very incestual relationships that are condemned.
Not very helpful, when you consider where Seth found his wife.

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“rape: (Judges 21:10-24 NLT) So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.”
I just read the entire chapter, usually that fixes any “problem” people have with the Old Testament. Have the person read the entire chapter to bring these verses into “context”.
“slavery: However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)”
They weren’t slaves in the manner of slavery in recent times, such as the Dutch slave trade. They were indentured servants who had a debt that they were working off that they brought unto themselves, and anyone could buy that debt so that the servant would work for the new owner of the debt. I forgot the other reasons how one was an indentured servant, but the point is made.
“Incest :Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father Genesis 19:32-36 also the link below also relates to genocide”
What two spiteful women did to their father, and if I’m not mistaken they were cursed for that, is somehow in this person’s brain registering as condoning it? Might have this opponent of yours understand “wit” before engaging into battles of it.
“and im waiting for your explanation on the genocide because i am confident there is no reasoning behind that that will make that acceptable, even in those times.”
jimmyakin.org/2007/02/hard_sayings_of.html I doubt he’ll read this, but present it anyway. If he fails to read it, that’s on him and he therefore concedes the argument. Be sure to demand that he forfeits if he doesn’t comply to read apologetic material that perfectly answers all the questions. Intellectual dishonesty in a debate is murder to the self and everyone spectating knows this.
I told this person SO many times that he should research these bible versus and the meanings behind them, because he does not understand them. But he wanted MY opinion, he singled me out and I told him I am not ready for that, i am very young & I was just telling him the answers are all over the internet & I don’t want to have to quote them for him. I told him to ask these on this very website but he keeps bringing it back to me and my opinion on it. It’s like he expects every single Christian, young & old, to have exact answers to every bible verse. Of course I haven’t read the whole bible, though I am working on it.
He wants opinions that have faults and avoids factual, orderly presented and well established arguments, typical.
If you could please help me, it just really upsets me that so many people bash God as if he were evil and cruel :’(
He will not come here, so if you could go there I would love to watch & learn more of the meanings behind these versus’s, I haven’t even come to them yet and even I am confused about them.
Look back on the comments, on page 3 or 4, you will see someone named GOOdGuyGreg1 and probably a lot of others, who have stated these bibles versus a lot
Of course he won’t come here, that would be logical to go to the source and face the path of most resistance to try and test his arguments with fire. The atheists that do come here and stick around are “Catholics in waiting” 😃 In all seriousness, a true atheist is a person of complete indifference and wouldn’t bother asking questions, I am happy we have atheists on the forum who are at least interested in battles of wit, and I’m pretty sure ever since they got here their perspective of the Church isn’t the same as it was when they first started posting here. Very interesting to hear multiple atheists say, “if God does exists, then it’s either Catholicism or nothing,”

Personally though, I don’t waste any time with youtube chats. One, to many people making stupid comments and whatever you wrote gets berried. Two, not enough allowed letters to type what you need to type. He wants an intellectual and civil debate, the door is wide open here.
 
I just read the entire chapter, usually that fixes any “problem” people have with the Old Testament. Have the person read the entire chapter to bring these verses into “context”.

They weren’t slaves in the manner of slavery in recent times, such as the Dutch slave trade. They were indentured servants who had a debt that they were working off that they brought unto themselves, and anyone could buy that debt so that the servant would work for the new owner of the debt. I forgot the other reasons how one was an indentured servant, but the point is made.

What two spiteful women did to their father, and if I’m not mistaken they were cursed for that, is somehow in this person’s brain registering as condoning it? Might have this opponent of yours understand “wit” before engaging into battles of it.

jimmyakin.org/2007/02/hard_sayings_of.html I doubt he’ll read this, but present it anyway. If he fails to read it, that’s on him and he therefore concedes the argument. Be sure to demand that he forfeits if he doesn’t comply to read apologetic material that perfectly answers all the questions. Intellectual dishonesty in a debate is murder to the self and everyone spectating knows this.

He wants opinions that have faults and avoids factual, orderly presented and well established arguments, typical.

Of course he won’t come here, that would be logical to go to the source and face the path of most resistance to try and test his arguments with fire. The atheists that do come here and stick around are “Catholics in waiting” 😃 In all seriousness, a true atheist is a person of complete indifference and wouldn’t bother asking questions, I am happy we have atheists on the forum who are at least interested in battles of wit, and I’m pretty sure ever since they got here their perspective of the Church isn’t the same as it was when they first started posting here. Very interesting to hear multiple atheists say, “if God does exists, then it’s either Catholicism or nothing,”

Personally though, I don’t waste any time with youtube chats. One, to many people making stupid comments and whatever you wrote gets berried. Two, not enough allowed letters to type what you need to type. He wants an intellectual and civil debate, the door is wide open here.
What do you base this conclusion on?
 
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