Bible used by Eastern Rite Catholics

[ae22]

Do the Bibles used by Eastern Rite Catholics have the books that Latin Rite Catholics reject, but that the Eastern Orthodox use (i.e. 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, etc)?

If so, is this considered an issue? The STYLE of the liturgy (as well as many theological points, such as WHEN the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of our Lord) is very different, but this actually makes it so that books that Latin Rite Catholics do not consider to be inspired would be used.

If not, why not? As the Eastern Churches have used these books for a very long time, would it be considered unacceptable to many of them for these books to be taken out of their Bibles (or moved to a section labeled “apocrypha”)?

Finally, if the Orthodox Churches were to return to full communion with Rome, would the inclusion of these books be a sticking point?

 

[GaryTaylor]

They have more, and as I think about it I’m slightly jealous as they have more information which leads to more logically sound conclusions? Can I just read the parts we are missing on-line?

 

[ae22]

Sure, why not? You can read the Gospel of Judas and Gospel of Peter, too…but these books are apocryphal and not considered to be inspired. But simply to give you insight? I don’t think anything in those books (the ones considered canonical by the Orthodox Churches) would actually contradict anything in the books that Latin Rite Catholics consider to be canonical, nor would it endanger your faith in any way.

Just don’t read the Qu’ran or Book of Mormon or anything like that unless you are strong enough in your faith where you are absolutely sure it wouldn’t be endangered.

 

[SyroMalankara]

Do the Bibles used by Eastern Rite Catholics have the books that Latin Rite Catholics reject, but that the Eastern Orthodox use (i.e. 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, etc)?

If so, is this considered an issue? The STYLE of the liturgy (as well as many theological points, such as WHEN the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of our Lord) is very different, but this actually makes it so that books that Latin Rite Catholics do not consider to be inspired would be used.

If not, why not? As the Eastern Churches have used these books for a very long time, would it be considered unacceptable to many of them for these books to be taken out of their Bibles (or moved to a section labeled “apocrypha”)?

Finally, if the Orthodox Churches were to return to full communion with Rome, would the inclusion of these books be a sticking point?

There are 22 Eastern Catholics Churches, many with Orthodox counterparts. The Byzantine Churches consider the Septuagint the norm; the Syriac look toward the Peshetto; the Ethiopians have the largest Canon based on their Tradition, etc.
The Catholic Church accepts all the Apostolic Traditions as equally valid. There is no sticking point with the inclusion of books that the Latin Church does not have. This doesn’t change doctrine or theology.

 

[ae22]

Let’s say the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church came to an agreement tomorrow indicating that they would be coming back into full communion. Would they have to, say, reprint the NAB and RSV-CE with 3 Maccabees and Psalm 151? Or would the Orthodox continue to have full permission to continue using the same Bibles they’ve been accustomed to using, while Latin Rite Catholics would continue using their bibles sans those books?

I doubt very highly it would be a sticking point as far as “we’ve agreed on everything about the primacy of the Pope, we’ve resolved the Filioque issue, but we’re at a standstill regarding your deuterocanonical books”.

 

[SyroMalankara]

Let’s say the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church came to an agreement tomorrow indicating that they would be coming back into full communion. Would they have to, say, reprint the NAB and RSV-CE with 3 Maccabees and Psalm 151? Or would the Orthodox continue to have full permission to continue using the same Bibles they’ve been accustomed to using, while Latin Rite Catholics would continue using their bibles sans those books?

I doubt very highly it would be a sticking point as far as “we’ve agreed on everything about the primacy of the Pope, we’ve resolved the Filioque issue, but we’re at a standstill regarding your deuterocanonical books”.

There isn’t and never has been a sticking point. Byzantine Catholics traditionally have the same Bible as their Orthodox counterpart. Syriac Catholics have the same Bible as their Orthodox counterparts, etc. Latins will continue to use what they use, Eastern Churches will use how their various Traditions use.

 

[Celticnovice]

There isn’t and never has been a sticking point. Byzantine Catholics traditionally have the same Bible as their Orthodox counterpart. Syriac Catholics have the same Bible as their Orthodox counterparts, etc. Latins will continue to use what they use, Eastern Churches will use how their various Traditions use.

This.

 

[Seraphim73]

Let’s say the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic Church came to an agreement tomorrow indicating that they would be coming back into full communion. Would they have to, say, reprint the NAB and RSV-CE with 3 Maccabees and Psalm 151? Or would the Orthodox continue to have full permission to continue using the same Bibles they’ve been accustomed to using, while Latin Rite Catholics would continue using their bibles sans those books?

I doubt very highly it would be a sticking point as far as “we’ve agreed on everything about the primacy of the Pope, we’ve resolved the Filioque issue, but we’re at a standstill regarding your deuterocanonical books”.

Permission? That pretty much sums up why we will never be united in one word. Maybe if you’re lucky we’ll grant you permission to use your current canon. Or permission to celebrate the Immaculate Conception.

 

[molena]

soran.edu.iq

 

[Phillip_Rolfes]

Permission? That pretty much sums up why we will never be united in one word. Maybe if you’re lucky we’ll grant you permission to use your current canon. Or permission to celebrate the Immaculate Conception.

Excellent response. Sad that such is the case and the view that people take. But excellent response nonetheless.

 

[ae22]

Permission? That pretty much sums up why we will never be united in one word. Maybe if youMontyucky we’ll grant you permission to use your current canon. Or permission to celebrate the Immaculate Conception.

The Pope might not have permission to have full primacy of the Eastern churches if there was to be a reconciliation. Omnt

 

[MorEphrem]

The Pope might not have permission to have full primacy of the Eastern churches if there was to be a reconciliation. Omnt

To be clear about terminology, I don’t think any Apostolic Church has ever contested the primacy of the Pope of Rome - what has been contested is when the word primacy is used but read supremacy.

 

[collin_nunis]

Do the Bibles used by Eastern Rite Catholics have the books that Latin Rite Catholics reject, but that the Eastern Orthodox use (i.e. 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, etc)?

If so, is this considered an issue? The STYLE of the liturgy (as well as many theological points, such as WHEN the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of our Lord) is very different, but this actually makes it so that books that Latin Rite Catholics do not consider to be inspired would be used.

If not, why not? As the Eastern Churches have used these books for a very long time, would it be considered unacceptable to many of them for these books to be taken out of their Bibles (or moved to a section labeled “apocrypha”)?

Finally, if the Orthodox Churches were to return to full communion with Rome, would the inclusion of these books be a sticking point?

I wish it was that simple where we took everything wholesale from the Orthodox. However, I believe that these apocryphal Orthodox books in the Bible are not really big issues; as they are hardly used at parish services. So in most cases, we are quite content with using the Ignatius Bible (RSV). I personally have the Orthodox Study Bible, which I use from time to time for its very simple and pastoral commentaries.

 

[Vico]

Do the Bibles used by Eastern Rite Catholics have the books that Latin Rite Catholics reject, but that the Eastern Orthodox use (i.e. 3 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Psalm 151, etc)?

If so, is this considered an issue? The STYLE of the liturgy (as well as many theological points, such as WHEN the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of our Lord) is very different, but this actually makes it so that books that Latin Rite Catholics do not consider to be inspired would be used.

If not, why not? As the Eastern Churches have used these books for a very long time, would it be considered unacceptable to many of them for these books to be taken out of their Bibles (or moved to a section labeled “apocrypha”)?

Finally, if the Orthodox Churches were to return to full communion with Rome, would the inclusion of these books be a sticking point?

In the liturgy the Byzantine Catholic Church USA uses the 1970 NAB with some adaptations.