Bible verse I read after being discouraged here

[StrawberryJam]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

 

[ricmat]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

Those words are similar to what is said during the Eucharistic Prayer during Mass. Much of the Bible contains foreshadowings of future people, events, or places, this appears to be one of those instances. The general subject which addresses this “phenomenon” is called “typeology.” Another example would be the manna in the desert of Exodus (bread from heaven) foreshadowing the new bread from heaven which is Christ in the Eucharist.

 

[geometer]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

try verses 6 and 7

 

[ricmat]

Those words are similar to what is said during the Eucharistic Prayer during Mass. Much of the Bible contains foreshadowings of future people, events, or places, this appears to be one of those instances. The general subject which addresses this “phenomenon” is called “typeology.” Another example would be the manna in the desert of Exodus (bread from heaven) foreshadowing the new bread from heaven which is Christ in the Eucharist.

How strange. After typing in the above post, I prayed the Liturgy of the Hours Evening Prayer for Dec 26. The first Psalm was #113, and it contains the words “May the name of the Lord be blessed both now and for ever more! From the rising of the sun to its setting praised be the name of the Lord.” I’m using my iPod Touch with eBreviary for the readings, and I don’t have a bible or commentary handy (I’m visiting the in-laws right now), so I can’t comment any more. But those words are similar to Malachi 1:11.

 

[Belloc_Fan]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

Incredibly astute. The Early Church Fathers used this verse constantly, and I’ve always felt that it’s very perceptive – I’m not sure I ever would have noticed it, on my own. It’s God talking about the coming Incarnation, and speaking about how after that, there will finally be a pure Sacrifice offered by His priests.

The Didache says, “Assemble on the Lord’s day, and break bread and offer the Eucharist; but first make confession of your faults, so that your sacrifice may be a pure one. Anyone who has a difference with his fellow is not to take part with you until he has been reconciled, so as to avoid any profanation of your sacrifice [Matt. 5:23–24]. For this is the offering of which the Lord has said, ‘Everywhere and always bring me a sacrifice that is undefiled, for I am a great king, says the Lord, and my name is the wonder of nations’ [Mal. 1:11, 14]” (Didache 14 [A.D. 70]).

 

[donsnow]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

Hi, StrawberryJam -

That’s a good way to look at it. The footnote for Malachi 1, 10-11 in my NAB said this passage foreshadows the Mass. The center of the Mass, of course, is the sacrifice of the Eucharist.

Don

 

[thistle]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

D-R Bible, Haydock Commentary:

Ver. 11. Sacrifice. Protestant, “incense.” (Haydock) — Clean oblation. The precious body and blood of Christ in the eucharistic sacrifice. (Challoner) — This is denoted by the very word mincha, the offering of flour and wine. (Calmet) See St. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho; St. Irenæus, Against Heresies iv. 32.; St. Augustine, City of God xviii. 35.) — “We pollute this bread, that is the body of Christ, when we approach the altar unworthily.” (St. Jerome v. 7.) — This sacrifice is clean. (Council of Trent, session xxii. chap. i.) (Menochius) — It is offered daily throughout the world. The Jews see the completion of this prediction, and are vexed; they strive to elude its force. Though enemies, they bear about these proofs of our faith, and of their own condemnation. (Calmet) — God not only changed his people, but instituted a better sacrifice. Instead of the former needy elements, (Galatians iv.) which were often defiled by the sins of the offerers, He instituted the sacrifice of his own Body and Blood, under the appearance of bread and wine, as St. Chrysostom (in Psalm xcv.), Theodoret, &c., prove against all opponents. A sacrifice different from any offered as many have demonstrated. (Worthington) — Christ’s bloody sacrifice on the cross was performed on Calvary, and not among the Gentiles. What sacrifice can Protestants now produce? (Haydock)

 

[MarcoPolo]

If I had a dollar everytime someone asked me why do I care about what christians believe I would have more spare change than you realize.

So, I picked up the bible and thought I would read some of it. I ended up in Malachi, and when I was at the 11th verse of the 1st chapter, I read it again.

This seems to be talking about the Eucharist. Am I right? Or am I not seeing this passage correctly?

Yes. Along with the other references you got from Church docs, it is referenced in 3 different Catechism paragraphs as follows:*1330 The memorial of the Lord’s Passion and Resurrection. The Holy Sacrifice, because it makes present the one sacrifice of Christ the Savior and includes the Church’s offering. The terms holy sacrifice of the Mass, “sacrifice of praise,” spiritual sacrifice, pure and holy sacrifice are also used, since it completes and surpasses all the sacrifices of the Old Covenant. The Holy and Divine Liturgy, because the Church’s whole liturgy finds its center and most intense expression in the celebration of this sacrament; in the same sense we also call its celebration the Sacred Mysteries. We speak of the Most Blessed Sacrament because it is the Sacrament of sacraments. The Eucharistic species reserved in the tabernacle are designated by this same name.

1350 The presentation of the offerings (the Offertory). Then, sometimes in procession, the bread and wine are brought to the altar; they will be offered by the priest in the name of Christ in the Eucharistic sacrifice in which they will become his body and blood. It is the very action of Christ at the Last Supper - “taking the bread and a cup.” “The Church alone offers this pure oblation to the Creator, when she offers what comes forth from his creation with thanksgiving.” The presentation of the offerings at the altar takes up the gesture of Melchizedek and commits the Creator’s gifts into the hands of Christ who, in his sacrifice, brings to perfection all human attempts to offer sacrifices.

2643 The Eucharist contains and expresses all forms of prayer: it is “the pure offering” of the whole Body of Christ to the glory of God’s name and, according to the traditions of East and West, it is the “sacrifice of praise.”*