Biblical interpretation 101

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This has probably been stated many times - I don’t know, I’m new here:) If yes it bears restating, if no, I think it bears consideration. It is simply this: I think that the good majority of these scriptual disputes could be settled if people took a both/and approach to scripture rather than an either/or (which must be said to be much more common among Protestants).

Here’s an example: If Jesus says we must be baptised, must persevere to the end to be saved, must forgive others if we are to be forgiven, must eat His Flesh and drink His Blood to have life in us, must use the graces He gives us wisely, or else be “cut off from the vine and burned” if we don’t, and Paul says (that is, Jesus, the Word of God, through Paul, of course) we must have faith to be justified, must confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord, must run the race so as to win, and will be judged by our works (a constant theme of the whole of scripture) who am I or who is anybody else to say “I can do this one and I a thereby doing God’s will and am assured of heaven,” or “I can do these to the exclusion of these others,” or even leave one out? People do not intentionally choose like this, but this is, in effect, what they are doing. If I lead an exemplary Christian life, but never forgave others their tresspasses against me as I pray God would mine, would I be saved? Of course not, according to Our Lord’s own words. Of course, this is just an extreme example to make a point; it is not at all likely, since a person striving to live his life in Christ and to do His will will in all likelihood be a forgiving person. But I hope it makes a point. What do you think, bretheren?
 
Oh, I certainly agree with you. Many individuals have a difficult time with a both/and approach. (Of course they should if there is a contradiction.) However, in the Catholic understanding there is not; we can have it both ways, depending on the issues.

I don’t think we do the Bible justice when we “cherry pick” verses to prove our point. Of course both sides can be guilty of this, and dialogue needs to start somewhere. We all agree the Bible is the word of God.

I also agree that many people seem to clearly ignore certain passages of scripture, and twist others. That beings said, I don’t think the Lord intended Sola Scriptura, because division is the inevitable aftermath of such a belief system.
 
The biggest issue, IMO, that effects peoples interpretation of Scripture is that they use their beliefs to determine how to interpret Scripture.

For Instance, to a Calvinist (someone who thinks there are those pre-destined for heaven, and there’s nothing others can do about it - I hope that is Calvinism), the story of the Sheep and Goats proves their point. The goats go to hell because they are goats - they are not pre-destined, so to say.

Someone who believes in OSAS, looks at the Prodigal Son as a way of proving their point. Nothing the son did affected his Salvation. They ignore the point of Repentence, of Forgiveness, and everything else this story brings with it.
 
Dcana, to your point, I think you are dead on. Scripture has multiple layers of meanings (I call it the “Shrek Affect”). The woman in Revelation 12 represents Mary, Israel, AND the Church. You don’t have to limit it to one of these three and tell supporters of the other two that they are wrong.

Prophecies are also often like that. Isaiah’s prophecy in 7:14 was partially fulfilled in Isaiah’s time, but then it was fully fulfilled in the birth of Christ - Immanuel.
 
Dcana, to your point, I think you are dead on. Scripture has multiple layers of meanings (I call it the “Shrek Affect”). The woman in Revelation 12 represents Mary, Israel, AND the Church. You don’t have to limit it to one of these three and tell supporters of the other two that they are wrong.

Prophecies are also often like that. Isaiah’s prophecy in 7:14 was partially fulfilled in Isaiah’s time, but then it was fully fulfilled in the birth of Christ - Immanuel.
Yea Revelation is a book riddled with metaphores.
 
The biggest issue, IMO, that effects peoples interpretation of Scripture is that they use their beliefs to determine how to interpret Scripture.

For Instance, to a Calvinist (someone who thinks there are those pre-destined for heaven, and there’s nothing others can do about it - I hope that is Calvinism),

Well - roughly, sort of, depending what exactly one means & emphasises 🙂

the story of the Sheep and Goats proves their point. The goats go to hell because they are goats - they are not pre-destined, so to say.

Someone who believes in OSAS, looks at the Prodigal Son as a way of proving their point. Nothing the son did affected his Salvation. They ignore the point of Repentence, of Forgiveness, and everything else this story brings with it.

No, that’s not Calvinism 🙂 - thpough it may well be Hyper-Calvinism, or even determinism 🙂

 
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