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When we go to confession,our sins get forgiven yes?
Doesnt that mean that i could sin my whole life,then on my deathbed,ask to see a priest,then get the priest to forgive ALL my sins?

Am i right when i say that,i could sin all my life,then get forgiven just as i am about to die?

Doesnt this give people a licence to sin?
 
I think that’d be a sin of presumption, although if you do repent and change your ways at the death bed, I’m sure you could open yourself up for salvation. Here in the world, the more sin you have the less your open to true joy. Then you’d have more to purge in purgatory. Finially in heaven, you wouldn’t have much to show. Maybe if you think of it as trying to treat your spouse as bad as posible but still yet good enough to remain in the spouse’s love.
 
Dear Godsent,
Your hypothesis might appear correct on the surface. Centuries ago in the history of penance, some used to try to wait until death. However, there are significant problems with this hypothesis. Forgiveness in confession requires the disposition of contrition and repentance. If someone waits until their deathbed, are they really contrite and repentant about offending God or are they doing this for the selfish reason of avoiding hell?

I once heard a very good priest who travels the US giving retreats and talks, preach a sermon on this very subject. One thing that has always stuck with me. He said that he has been to many deathbeds and what he has observed is how people live is how they die. He said that deathbed conversions are almost non-existant. Further he added, that the ones whose life was devoted to Jesus died with him on their lips and in their heart; others, died without this.

I do not think such an idea is wise!

Love & peace in Christ,
Bob
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godsent:
When we go to confession,our sins get forgiven yes?
Doesnt that mean that i could sin my whole life,then on my deathbed,ask to see a priest,then get the priest to forgive ALL my sins?

Am i right when i say that,i could sin all my life,then get forgiven just as i am about to die?

Doesnt this give people a licence to sin?
 
godsent–yes and no. Let me explain.

The mercy of Jesus is infinite and deatbead conversions/confessions have and do occurr.

But no, that does not give one license to sin. For example, if you are aware something is sinful and decide to willfully committ that sin, thinking that you can just go to confession, you have amplified your sin and added to it the mortal sin of presumption.

Do not presume God’s grace.

The priest will absolve you in good faith, but only God really knows your heart and if you are not truly sorry for your sins and have a firm purpose of amendment, not only have you not been absolved but it’s really a lie–in the confessional.

Further, we don’t know the day or the hour. There is no guarantee that any one of us will have the opportunity for a deathbed confession. What then?

It’s best to try to live a holy life and understand what our sins are and learn to overcome them–which is part of Confession., The priest should not only be absolving by rote, but should be giving advice as to how to overcome and therefore grow in holiness.

We never know the state of another person’s soul, but I for one don’t want to presume upon the grace of God although it’s an easy trap to fall into.
 
I suppose a very old, evil man could meet up with Jesus right before he died and beg Jesus for his mercy, and Jesus could grant it. This could have taken place way back 2000 years ago in Judea. What about that guy on the cross next to him? This also applies to Christian baptism. A person could get baptized right before they die. After all, no one knows when they’ll die. You could be a soldier and have a chaplain baptize you, and then immediately go out and get shot. These could all have the same issues.

This has nothing in particular to do with confession.

I’m not sure what your main question is, but yes, if you go to confession, and it happens that a piano falls on you as you walk out, and you did honestly repent and return to Jesus and it wasn’t just a farce, then you won’t go to hell. Ditto for baptism. Ditto for anyone Jesus accepts as they turn to him in love and grace.

However, if you (any generic person) postpone turning to Jesus all your life, what makes you think you’ll do it right before you die? Old habits die hard. Quite a risk. One should turn to Jesus when he calls. He is calling Today. As long as it is Today, let us turn to Jesus. God’s call is a poor choice to use procratination on.
 
Since each individual confession requires repentance for sin and an intention to avoid those sins in the future, confession is assuredly NOT a license to sin. If one simply goes repeatedly to confession with the very intention of repeating the sin, no absolution can take place.

Note, however, that one can repeatedly confess a sin to which one is addicted and which you know is likely to occur again, and still have the intention to avoid it. Knowledge of one’s own failings and predilections is not a will to sin. In fact, repeated confession in such a case will help one to break the habit of sin.

I agree that deathbed conversions are rare. Still, they are possible, and sometimes the prayers or actual interventions of others may help.

An example: My father in law had a brother who had been away from the Church and all religion for many years, and was dying of cancer. He made a trip to see him in a distant city, and to be with him in his last days. While there, he contacted a local parish priest and asked that he visit his brother. As a result of that visit, his brother came back to the Church and received the last rites. He received a Catholic funeral Mass and burial.

This would not have occurred without intervention, and I have often thought what a wonderful gift he had given to his brother by this action.
 
The question has already been answered, but this article is definitely worth your time (but it is a bit in-depth):

schmemann.org/byhim/reflectionsonconfession.html

There is no forgiveness without repentance, without amendment, within or without the boundaries of the Sacrament of Confession. You cannot ‘con’ God.

Also, stay away from postulating hypothetical situations. I’m not sure any spiritual growth can come from unanchored speculation.
 
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godsent:
When we go to confession,our sins get forgiven yes?
Doesnt that mean that i could sin my whole life,then on my deathbed,ask to see a priest,then get the priest to forgive ALL my sins?

Am i right when i say that,i could sin all my life,then get forgiven just as i am about to die?

Doesnt this give people a licence to sin?
That would be great if you knew when you were going to die. Likewise, if this was your plan, you likely would not be truly sorry for your sins so your confession would not be valid.

I used to be jealous of those that got to do whatever they wanted and then repented on their deathbed. Then my faith matured. Now I feel sorrow for those people that they went their whole lives out of God’s grace, yet happy they found it at the end. They missed out on so much. I wouldn’t want to live a life of sin for anything. I hate having a mortal sin on my conscience.
 
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patrickmichael:
…Also, stay away from postulating hypothetical situations. I’m not sure any spiritual growth can come from unanchored speculation.
I respectfully disagree. Take this thread, for example. It clearly demostrates what should NOT be done and that could be of guidance to some.
 
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Genesis315:
I used to be jealous of those that got to do whatever they wanted and then repented on their deathbed. Then my faith matured. Now I feel sorrow for those people that they went their whole lives out of God’s grace, yet happy they found it at the end. They missed out on so much.
True, true, true.

My priest uses the example of the attitude of “what’s the most I can get away with and still get into heaven.” We know we’ll be perfectly happy in heaven. We will receive as much happiness as we are capable of. If we spend a life cultivating virtue and love of God, we will be capable of much more happiness than we would be if we focused only on ourselves, even if we received absolution on our death bed. Very risky proposition, that.
 
Sir Knight:
I respectfully disagree. Take this thread, for example. It clearly demostrates what should NOT be done and that could be of guidance to some.
Point taken.

I think it is better still to learn what should be done, as that eliminates the need for every list of what should not be done (Love is the fulfilment of the Law). Such lists are conducive to even more serious errors: “If it ain’t on the list it’s okay!”…“I don’t do A, B, or C so the fact that I do D all the time isn’t so bad at all!”

It’s better to avoid theory: “how could this sacrament be abused?” (or at least leave the theorizing to the professionals!) and focus on practice: “How do I make a good confession?” Most questions are irrelevant; we already know, by revelation, what we need to do. We can think up all sorts of potential abuses or violations of Truth. Is addressing the specifics of these potential violations really, ultimately, beneficial? Is it not better still to learn what is Truth, and why it is? If we do this we are equipped with the answer to all the negatives anyway.

We must spend our limited time here asking the best questions possible…thus: avoid the hypotheticals.
 
Dear friend

This hypothesis does not apply to Catholics because as Catholics we should always remain repentant, constantly turning our lives around to the Lord.

I believe that if a soul on their deathbed turned around to God and begged mercy with a contrite heart, that would be given to them. Their reward may be great for the good deeds they did in their life, but their reward would not be as great as if they had lived in faith and friendship with God all of their lives, living in love, love of God and love of each other.

The glory is equal to the life we lead and that echoes in all eternity. Every single little thing matters. We reap what we sow in faith and in works.

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
Are you assuming you’ll have the chance to repent? What if you’re in an accident and are killed instantly? Or go into a coma? Then what? —KCT
 
…i don’t recommend you dance with the devil in the pail moon light… his bell tolls for deals just like the one you mention…

 
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KCT:
Are you assuming you’ll have the chance to repent? What if you’re in an accident and are killed instantly? Or go into a coma? Then what? —KCT
This is a very good pont. Anyone who’s ever been in an auto accident can tell you that if you’re planning on making a sincere act of contrition or perhaps calling a priest on your cell phone, there just won’t be time.
 
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