Birth control

[Filii_Dei]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Contraception is NEVER an option. It is an evil that cannot be sanctioned even for medical reasons. You never do a good through an evil.

Contraception is never medically necessary. One can abstain from intercourse, if there is a medical reason to avoid pregnancy. To “go for it” is a license to enjoy without the natural results that God built into sexual intercourse. Whereas NFP does not obstruct the natural results of intercourse, because there is no intercourse during the fertile period. The natural result of intercourse during the infertile period is no pregnancy. This method works along with the laws that God placed into nature.

My friend, if you want to “double up” on protection, then use NFP and prayer.

The very idea of using the term “protection” borders on the immoral. It makes it sound as if pregnancy is an evil from which one has to protect oneself. The negative here is your wife’s medical condition, not the pregnancy. If you love your wife, then you will make the sacrifice for her as Christ sacrificed himself for his Church.

I agree totally with you, Brother JR! There is just a small caveat to your statement that “contraception is never an option”, which most may not be aware of.

I would like to update you that the Magisterium does approve of contraception in one very specific case: following a rape. In such cases, if conception has not already occurred, it is permitted to administer emergency contraception to prevent ovulation such that it would induce pregnancy. However, it is still sinful to induce abortion through the use of abortifacients. Incidentally, some pharmaceuticals used for emergency contraception can also induce abortion, so it is necessary to first perform tests to ensure that conception has not already taken place before administering the contraceptive.

It is further elucidated in the following articles:
catholicnewsagency.com/resources/life-and-family/sexuality-contraception/the-morning-after-pill-rape-victims-and-ethical-and-religious-directives-for-catholic-health-care-services/
patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/02/german-bishops-emergency-contraception-in-case-of-rape-is-licit-if-it-doesnt-induce-abortion.html

Of course, I understand that your statement was directed towards the idea of an individual taking contraceptives with the express purpose of using it to prevent conception while having an active sexual lifestyle, not a case of rape. Many people are not aware that contraception can still be used even after an incident of rape. Hence you are definitely not wrong.

 

[Filii_Dei]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Contraception is NEVER an option. It is an evil that cannot be sanctioned even for medical reasons. You never do a good through an evil.

Contraception is never medically necessary. One can abstain from intercourse, if there is a medical reason to avoid pregnancy. To “go for it” is a license to enjoy without the natural results that God built into sexual intercourse. Whereas NFP does not obstruct the natural results of intercourse, because there is no intercourse during the fertile period. The natural result of intercourse during the infertile period is no pregnancy. This method works along with the laws that God placed into nature.

My friend, if you want to “double up” on protection, then use NFP and prayer.

The very idea of using the term “protection” borders on the immoral. It makes it sound as if pregnancy is an evil from which one has to protect oneself. The negative here is your wife’s medical condition, not the pregnancy. If you love your wife, then you will make the sacrifice for her as Christ sacrificed himself for his Church.

I agree totally with you, Brother JR! There is just a small caveat to your statement that “contraception is never an option”, which most may not be aware of.

I would like to update you that the Magisterium does approve of contraception in one very specific case: following a rape. In such cases, if conception has not already occurred, it is permitted to administer emergency contraception to prevent ovulation such that it would induce pregnancy. However, it is still sinful to induce abortion through the use of abortifacients. Additionally, some emergency contraceptives (such as the Yupze regimen) can also potentiall induce abortion (which as we all know is a mortal sin under all circumstances), so it is necessary to first perform tests to ensure that conception has not already taken place before administering the contraceptive.

It is further elucidated in the following articles:
catholicnewsagency.com/resources/life-and-family/sexuality-contraception/the-morning-after-pill-rape-victims-and-ethical-and-religious-directives-for-catholic-health-care-services/
patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/02/german-bishops-emergency-contraception-in-case-of-rape-is-licit-if-it-doesnt-induce-abortion.html

Of course, I understand that your statement was directed towards the idea of an individual taking contraceptives with the express purpose of using it to prevent conception while having an active sexual lifestyle, not a case of rape. Many people are not aware that contraception can still be used even after an incident of rape. Hence you are definitely not wrong.

 

[Filii_Dei]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Contraception is NEVER an option. It is an evil that cannot be sanctioned even for medical reasons. You never do a good through an evil.

Contraception is never medically necessary. One can abstain from intercourse, if there is a medical reason to avoid pregnancy. To “go for it” is a license to enjoy without the natural results that God built into sexual intercourse. Whereas NFP does not obstruct the natural results of intercourse, because there is no intercourse during the fertile period. The natural result of intercourse during the infertile period is no pregnancy. This method works along with the laws that God placed into nature.

My friend, if you want to “double up” on protection, then use NFP and prayer.

The very idea of using the term “protection” borders on the immoral. It makes it sound as if pregnancy is an evil from which one has to protect oneself. The negative here is your wife’s medical condition, not the pregnancy. If you love your wife, then you will make the sacrifice for her as Christ sacrificed himself for his Church.

I agree totally with you, Brother JR! However, there is just a small caveat to your statement that “contraception is never an option”, which most may not be aware of.

I would like to update you that the Magisterium does approve of contraception in one very specific case: following a rape. In such cases, if conception has not already occurred, it is permitted to administer emergency contraception to prevent ovulation so that it would not lead to conception. After all, the victim did not enter into the act willingly or in the least bit enjoy it. However, it is still sinful to induce abortion through the use of abortifacients.

Additionally, some emergency contraceptives (such as the Yupze regimen) can also potentially induce abortion (which as we all know is a mortal sin under all circumstances), so it is necessary to first perform tests to ensure that conception has not already taken place before administering the contraceptive.

It is further elucidated in the following articles:
catholicnewsagency.com/resources/life-and-family/sexuality-contraception/the-morning-after-pill-rape-victims-and-ethical-and-religious-directives-for-catholic-health-care-services/
patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/02/german-bishops-emergency-contraception-in-case-of-rape-is-licit-if-it-doesnt-induce-abortion.html

Of course, I understand that your statement was directed towards the idea of an individual taking contraceptives with the express purpose of using it to prevent conception while having an active sexual lifestyle, not a case of rape. Many people are not aware that contraception can still be used even after an incident of rape. Hence you are definitely not wrong.

 

[fix]

I agree totally with you, Brother JR! However, there is just a small caveat to your statement that “contraception is never an option”, which most may not be aware of.

I would like to update you that the Magisterium does approve of contraception in one very specific case: following a rape. In such cases, if conception has not already occurred, it is permitted to administer emergency contraception to prevent ovulation so that it would not lead to conception. After all, the victim did not enter into the act willingly or in the least bit enjoy it. However, it is still sinful to induce abortion through the use of abortifacients.

Additionally, some emergency contraceptives (such as the Yupze regimen) can also potentially induce abortion (which as we all know is a mortal sin under all circumstances), so it is necessary to first perform tests to ensure that conception has not already taken place before administering the contraceptive.

It is further elucidated in the following articles:
catholicnewsagency.com/resources/life-and-family/sexuality-contraception/the-morning-after-pill-rape-victims-and-ethical-and-religious-directives-for-catholic-health-care-services/
patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/02/german-bishops-emergency-contraception-in-case-of-rape-is-licit-if-it-doesnt-induce-abortion.html

Of course, I understand that your statement was directed towards the idea of an individual taking contraceptives with the express purpose of using it to prevent conception while having an active sexual lifestyle, not a case of rape. Many people are not aware that contraception can still be used even after an incident of rape. Hence you are definitely not wrong.

Warding off an unjust aggressor is not contraception. Contraception is a sin and is never justified. Taking medicine in cases you mention is not contraception.

 

[Filii_Dei]

Warding off an unjust aggressor is not contraception. Contraception is a sin and is never justified. Taking medicine in cases you mention is not contraception.

I’m not sure you understand what that word means. By the medical and etymological definition, contraception (contra-, meaning against; -ception, relating to conception) simply refers to the act of preventing conception. It has absolutely no relation to whether the potential of conception is the result of rape or consensual intercouse. In fact, all medical and ecclesiastical sources (read: USCCB) refer to the use of drugs to prevent ovulation in a victim of rape as “emergency contraception”, and is hence regarded as a use of contraception.

In a similar way, conception (from concieve, from concipere - to take together) is a neutral term that defines the joining of a sperm and ovum to form a living embryo, irrespective of the aggression that caused the act. Whether the mother was raped or entered into intercourse willingly, the resultant embryo is always said to have been conceived.

However, it is good to see that we both agree that taking the drug to prevent conception in the case of rape is permissible, while that it should be immoral for individuals to take contraceptives with the purpose of preventing pregnancy in consensual intercourse, so let us not split hairs over semantics.

 

[fix]

I’m not sure you understand what that word means. By the medical and etymological definition, contraception (contra-, meaning against; -ception, relating to conception) simply refers to the act of preventing conception. It has absolutely no relation to whether the potential of conception is the result of rape or consensual intercouse. In fact, all medical and ecclesiastical sources (read: USCCB) refer to the use of drugs to prevent ovulation in a victim of rape as “emergency contraception”, and is hence regarded as a use of contraception.

In a similar way, conception (from concieve, from concipere - to take together) is a neutral term that defines the joining of a sperm and ovum to form a living embryo, irrespective of the aggression that caused the act. Whether the mother was raped or entered into intercourse willingly, the resultant embryo is always said to have been conceived.

However, it is good to see that we both agree that taking the drug to prevent conception in the case of rape is permissible, while that it should be immoral for individuals to take contraceptives with the purpose of preventing pregnancy in consensual intercourse, so let us not split hairs over semantics.

The sin of contraception is the issue. Medical and secular terms should not be confused with the theological use of the term. Contraception is a sin. Medications called contraceptives are misnamed when talking about these issues. Medication is not intrinsically evil. Certain actions are intrinsically evil. Taking steps to ward off an unjust aggressor is not the sin of contraception.

 

[Filii_Dei]

The sin of contraception is the issue. Medical and secular terms should not be confused with the theological use of the term. Contraception is a sin. Medications called contraceptives are misnamed when talking about these issues. Medication is not intrinsically evil. Certain actions are intrinsically evil. Taking steps to ward off an unjust aggressor is not the sin of contraception.

We have always been in full agreement! I was using it in the medical usage (forgive me, for I am medically trained, and I refer to it in the functional and biological sense), but you consider it in its theological significance. Neither of us are wrong, and we are in no disagreement, merely that we misunderstand each other’s intention of the word. Both of us do not consider the use of such medication following a rape to be the sin of contraception, but I would personally consider it to be contraception nonetheless, but as you say, just not a sin.

If one would like a parallel, I would consider ‘contraception’ to be as neutral as the term ‘kill’. One can kill in self-defence, which would not be considered a sin, but it is still killing nonetheless, even though the vast majority of killings are sinful. Likewise, one can perform contraception following a rape, which would not be considered a sin, but it is still contraception nonetheless, even though the vast majority of uses of contraception are sinful.

I hope this helps further our mutual understanding.

 

[samary875]

ABSOLUTELY NOT

Contraception is NEVER an option. It is an evil that cannot be sanctioned even for medical reasons. You never do a good through an evil.

Contraception is never medically necessary. One can abstain from intercourse, if there is a medical reason to avoid pregnancy. To “go for it” is a license to enjoy without the natural results that God built into sexual intercourse. Whereas NFP does not obstruct the natural results of intercourse, because there is no intercourse during the fertile period. The natural result of intercourse during the infertile period is no pregnancy. This method works along with the laws that God placed into nature.

My friend, if you want to “double up” on protection, then use NFP and prayer.

The very idea of using the term “protection” borders on the immoral. It makes it sound as if pregnancy is an evil from which one has to protect oneself. The negative here is your wife’s medical condition, not the pregnancy. If you love your wife, then you will make the sacrifice for her as Christ sacrificed himself for his Church.

so what iam getting from this is having sex with your husband or wife is evil if not having a child?
so then if i do so dose this mean im going to hell?

 

[Holly3278]

I recommend following this advice. Headaches have a cause, and most western trained medical doctors simply will not find the cause. Many times headaches can be caused by allergic reactions, either from something in one’s diet (wheat, soy, etc.) or one’s environment. Allergists, Osteopaths, etc. can often find the cause and eliminate the problem simply by diet modification, removing the offending element from one’s environment, or by boosting one’s immune system (vitamin therapy, etc.).

I agree with this. If I were in the OP’s situation I would ask for some tests and/or referrals to specialists who could help me to figure out what is causing the headaches so that way perhaps the headaches could be controlled without this medication. Either that or I would see if there was a different medication I could use to control the headaches which would not affect an unborn child.