Bishop Williamson and the Jews

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Walking_Home said:
Holocaust denial --would be denying the concentration existed and no Jews died within them–wouldn’t it. That is not what the Bishop is saying.
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Denying that anybody died in the gas chambers is pretty much Holocaust Denial. Its admitting the camps existed, but denying the systematized killing that makes it the Holocaust.
 
What we need to remember is that people were tortured and died in many horrific ways during the second world war.

One person dying in a concentration camp is one person too many. Gas, bullets, starvation, torture, drowning, bayoneting, exhaustion, shooting…crimes crying out to God for justice to be carried out.

Personally I do not want to be associated with anyone who denies the horrors that occurred.
 
Historical facts are not part of the deposit of the faith. If Bishop Williamson wants to hold on to crazy theories about the holocaust, that’s his opinion. It may be sick and twisted, but he’s entitled to it.

Besides, wouldn’t the pope be able to control Williamson more if his excommunicated status was lifted and he were brought back into the flock?
 
Lujack said:
Denying that anybody died in the gas chambers is pretty much Holocaust Denial. Its admitting the camps existed, but denying the systematized killing that makes it the Holocaust.
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Not really–you see it depends on where the focus is. The death itself of people in the concentration camps or the how they died. They could have starved, been shot, etc. What has happened is in order to try and lay a charge of anti-semitism --the focus is place on the manner of death – when what is terrible is the lost of life itself.
 
Christus_Rex said:
He also said that “for all” was the wrong translation of “pro mulits”. That crazy statement, which was contrary to what Rome said and implied for 37 years, turned out to ebe exactly right.

Another crazy personal belief of his was that the Old Mass was never abrogated. Contrary to what John Paul II the Great and virtually every Bishop in union with him taught, our new Pope admitted that the Bishop was right the whole time, and that the old Mass was never abrogatedt.

And guess what other crazy belief he held? That’s right, Bishop Williamssome believed that the “excommunication” of himself and Archbishop Lefebvre was null and void from the begining. And now what is Rome saying? We’ll find out soon.

Maybe you should start listening to Bishop Williamson. He seems to have the ability to see the truth when almost no one else can. Heck, the entire hierarchy was led into errors that Bishop Williamson could clearly see through the entire time.

Maybe God has given him that gift because he is not afraid to speak the truth. After all, why would God give such a gift to one who was too scared of offending people to speak up? Bishop Williamson doesn’t suffer from such disordered human respect. He has the courage to say what he believes to be true regardless of how politically incorrect it is.
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Having seen the interview on the internet, Bishop Williamson is very naive to publicly state those opinions based upon someone else’s statements. Maybe the person is an anti-semite and manipulates his knowledge about gas chambers to influence ordinary folk like us.

Also Bishop Williamson has publicly stated that he has a problem with the Church delcaring certain female Saints to be Doctors of the Church.

The man is strange.
 
childofmary1143 said:
Having seen the interview on the internet, Bishop Williamson is very naive to publicly state those opinions based upon someone else’s statements. Maybe the person is an anti-semite and manipulates his knowledge about gas chambers to influence ordinary folk like us.

Also Bishop Williamson has publicly stated that he has a problem with the Church delcaring certain female Saints to be Doctors of the Church.

The man is strange.
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Would you go so far as to say "he hath a devil, and is mad. Why here ye him"?
 
It’s amazing, that those here who brand themselves as “Traditionalists” Catholics would support a man and a belief that would try to, at least, minimize or even deny an event that is a horror to every person who seeks Justice.
 
Timothysis said:
It’s amazing, that those here who brand themselves as “Traditionalists” Catholics would support a man and a belief that would try to, at least, minimize or even deny an event that is a horror to every person who seeks Justice.
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I don’t believe there is any evidence for you to say that the bishop denies the holocaust. As for minimizing --as was shown prior --even someone who worked to counter the revisionists --“minimized” the number of deaths at the camps. I guess to some people this would qualify this man to be imprisioned.
 
Walking_Home said:
I don’t believe there is any evidence for you to say that the bishop denies the holocaust. As for minimizing --as was shown prior --even someone who worked to counter the revisionists --“minimized” the number of deaths at the camps. I guess to some people this would qualify this man to be imprisioned.
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Arguing for a number of four million dead instead of six million dead is VERY, VERY different from claiming nobody died in the gas chambers.
 
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