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I’m in RCIA coming into catholicism from other churches. I’ve always been told certain things about catholic ritual and it’s been related to superstition and basic uselessness.
So I’m trying to get to grips with the blessing of throats on St. Blaise day. I know he is meant to have cured a boy miraculously who was choking on a fish bone and that’s where the whole practice and blessing with crossed candles began.
However I looked up Saint Blaise in various sources, such as the Catholic Encyclopedia at Newadvent.
That source states that it can “perhaps be assumed” he was a bishop and suffered martyrdom. It states that all the stories about him are purely legendary and have no claim to historical worth. Other sources seem to come out with different stories about him. The encyclopedia does say the traditions are not to be “absolutely rejected”.
Now, to someone like me that doesn’t sound like a glowing guarantee that all these things happened to and through Blaise. In fact it sounds more like the stories are based on sources almost as good as those that would say St George killed a dragon or that St Christopher helped people across a river with ease due to being 24 feet tall as one story has it, or the stories of St Ursula or Philomena.
Can we know that any of the stories about St Blaise are true?
If we cannot, are we basing a church practice on records that we cannot trust and on hearsay and stories from centuries after the events did or did not occur?
If that’s the case, what separates this festival and practice and belief from any form of superstition?
Can we really pray to a saint in any manner if we don’t have that good reasons to believe that the saint is all he/she is made out to be?
How does it feel if you honour a saint greatly and then that saint is repressed for not existing or not doing anything much?
Why is Philomena still so honoured in so many places when it has been shown that the bones found aren’t from the right century, the tomb cover wasn’t originally from that tomb and that there’s absolutely no evidence that the bones belong to a virgin martyr - which is why she was suppressed in 1961?
In the light of the suppressed Philomena and everything that sprang up around her name, what am I to make about devotions to saints?
Just wondering
Blessings
Asteroid
Apologies - one little question turned into qute a few bigger ones. And the question of Blaise got rather wider.
So I’m trying to get to grips with the blessing of throats on St. Blaise day. I know he is meant to have cured a boy miraculously who was choking on a fish bone and that’s where the whole practice and blessing with crossed candles began.
However I looked up Saint Blaise in various sources, such as the Catholic Encyclopedia at Newadvent.
That source states that it can “perhaps be assumed” he was a bishop and suffered martyrdom. It states that all the stories about him are purely legendary and have no claim to historical worth. Other sources seem to come out with different stories about him. The encyclopedia does say the traditions are not to be “absolutely rejected”.
Now, to someone like me that doesn’t sound like a glowing guarantee that all these things happened to and through Blaise. In fact it sounds more like the stories are based on sources almost as good as those that would say St George killed a dragon or that St Christopher helped people across a river with ease due to being 24 feet tall as one story has it, or the stories of St Ursula or Philomena.
Can we know that any of the stories about St Blaise are true?
If we cannot, are we basing a church practice on records that we cannot trust and on hearsay and stories from centuries after the events did or did not occur?
If that’s the case, what separates this festival and practice and belief from any form of superstition?
Can we really pray to a saint in any manner if we don’t have that good reasons to believe that the saint is all he/she is made out to be?
How does it feel if you honour a saint greatly and then that saint is repressed for not existing or not doing anything much?
Why is Philomena still so honoured in so many places when it has been shown that the bones found aren’t from the right century, the tomb cover wasn’t originally from that tomb and that there’s absolutely no evidence that the bones belong to a virgin martyr - which is why she was suppressed in 1961?
In the light of the suppressed Philomena and everything that sprang up around her name, what am I to make about devotions to saints?
Just wondering
Blessings
Asteroid
Apologies - one little question turned into qute a few bigger ones. And the question of Blaise got rather wider.