"Blood Money" abortion documentary w/Alveda King, Dr. King's daughter

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Here’s a YouTube clip from “Blood Money,” a documentary with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s daughter, Alveda King. Alveda King emphasizes that African’s are 10% of the American population but 30% of abortion providers,so-called soft-kill genocide. youtube.com/watch?v=rD9aF9OXN0U
 
Don’t believe it.
Having known multiple women who have been through Planned Parenthood, this is not how they operate.

Essentially, a woman whose only qualification is that she admits to having lied to get money before is now being paid by an anti-abortion documentary to make abortion sound bad.
 
The number of African Americans who have abortions is a verifiable fact so I assume your taking issue with something else? I’ll make sure to remember your advice on “don’t believe it” when I hear there are priest that are pedophiles. “I don’t know any priests that are pedophiles so it must be a lie if I hear about some.” Planned Parenthood has a lot of dirty laundry and it should not be surprising considering abortions are a very dirty business.

Maybe you missed the old clip of Margret Sanger on 60 minutes but remember that the person who started Planned Parenthood believed the greatest sin a person could commit was to bring a baby into the World that was diseased or was going to become a criminal (apparently she believed you could tell a future criminal baby apart from the others…it probably wouldn’t be much of a stretch to just say she meant non-white colored people).
 
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The number of African Americans who have abortions is a verifiable fact so I assume your taking issue with something else? I’ll make sure to remember your advice on “don’t believe it” when I hear there are priest that are pedophiles. “I don’t know any priests that are pedophiles so it must be a lie if I hear about some.” Planned Parenthood has a lot of dirty laundry and it should not be surprising considering abortions are a very dirty business.

Maybe you missed the old clip of Margret Sanger on 60 minutes but remember that the person who started Planned Parenthood believed the greatest sin a person could commit was to bring a baby into the World that was diseased or was going to become a criminal (apparently she believed you could tell a future criminal baby apart from the others…it probably wouldn’t be much of a stretch to just say she meant non-white colored people).
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No, I responded to the video posted in the link. That specific woman is the person I would not believe.
I appologize if that was unclear.

Yes, PP began as a racist organization. It was an organization that was based on the idea that blacks were less human that whites. And any organization that believes that is fundamentally immoral and can never stand for anything good.
Of course, the United States started out that way, too…

Your priest/pedophile issue is actually spot on. The occasional person who does bad things does not condemn an organization dedicated to do good. By this logic, if Planned Parenthood is to be judged on the actions of its worst members, so must the Catholic Church be judged on its worst abuses.
That is a stupid, irrational way to view things, and I wouldn’t view your faith that way, and all I’m asking is to not subject other organizations to a scrutiny your own organization can’t hold up under.

Yes, I agree that the number of African Americans who receive abortion is larger than whites. But I’d also bet the differences are more socioeconomically based than melanin based.

There are multiple other arguments why the genocide argument is nonsensical. If you really are basing your oppinion of abortion providers on this argument, I will debate it with you. But more likely, I think you just oppose abortion and are looking for anything negative you can say about it.
So before I waste my time arguing something irrelevant, I’ll ask “If I could, hypothetically, prove that the genocide argument were irrelevant, would that change your stance?”
 
Planned Parenthood is not a noble and good organization. They kill for profit and abortion is wrong. I have view The Blood Money video and it is very good. I’m sure that people can pick apart the film but the bottom line IS Abortion ends a life!
 
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Your right, there were a couple of good things that Planned Parenthood has done. I think they refer like 10 women a year to adoption agencies (hyperbole…I think) and maybe a couple actually do mammograms themselves not just refer out to other places? We would not want to lose sight of these great feats in the midst of the…minor wrongs they have committed. Also Planned Parenthood being a racist organization is not just something in the past, but rather a current state. They target black heavy areas with their clinics. Talk about squelching the minority vote.

Difference between the Church and Planned Parenthood:

The Church’s goal is to save souls.

Planned Parenthood’s goal is to do anything possible (including murder) to “protect” women from babies they don’t want.
 
First of all, abortion cannot be murder, merely by definition.

“Murder” is the unlawful killing of a person. Abortion is legal, ergo it isn’t murder.
You can argue that it OUGHT to be illegal, but that’s a different statement.

Also, I still say that you can replace “primarily black areas” with “primarily impoverished areas” and come up with the same distribution.

Wendy,
It’s really tempting to vilify the opposition. It’s nice to believe that you’re the moral minority fighting the good fight against a powerful evil regime. That’s why it’s a premise for so many movies and TV shows.
But it’s also a childish belief that doesn’t apply to the real world. People working in PP clinics aren’t maniacally laughing and plotting how to kill more babies. Nor are they diving into swimming pools of money like Scrooge McDuck.
People who work at PP clinics see women in trouble and want to help. They are good people. They want to help women control their own fertility, and live the lifestyle they choose.
Trying to make abortion illegal because your religion opposes it would be like Jews trying to make ham illegal, or Muslims making alcohol illegal, or Mormons making caffeine illegal, or Christian Scientists making Healthcare illegal, or the Amish making electricity illegal.
I’m glad you like your beliefs. But saying “they don’t share our perspective, so they are evil” is not a healthy way to run a society.

People’s sexual activity will always be a choice, just like their religious beliefs will always be a choice (or did you want to mandate that, too?). If you want people to choose your way, then try making it more appealing. Work for an adoption agency, craft legislation to make adoption easier.
 
This is why I no longer argue with pro abortion people. It doesn’t matter if its legal you are still taking a human life. Sorry you don’t want to see that but its is true. A baby doesn’t just become a baby because it passes through the birth canal. There are alot of very good crisis pregnancy centers that come up with solutions for women who need help. I think it is childish of you that you have to attack people who don’t share your views. Talk with some of the Silent no More group and see their feelings on the noble PP.

By the way LJH80 you know nothing about me, I do work and donate to crisis pregnancy centers and try to make a difference.
 
Congtatulations! I’m glad you have work that fulfills you.

I didn’t say it wasn’t taking a human life. I just said that “murder” is an incorrect term. I’m sorry if factual accuracy is inconvenient to your emotional stance. I can make arguments that it is not, in fact, taking a human life, but that’s not what I did.

But if you think I’m attacking the pro-life stance, you misunderstand me.
I’m attacking the portrayal of abortion providers as evil.

The fact that they do something that your religion says is evil makes them exactly as evil as you are for doing things that other people’s religions find evil: for example consuming alcohol.

Muslim parents don’t raise their children as Muslims because of some evil desire to contradict Christianity, they do it because it’s what they believe to be right.
Likewise, Christians don’t raise their children to be Christians out of an evil desire to reject the teachings of the Qu’ran.
Likewise abortion providers are not evil masterminds trying to kill as many babies as possible. Most of them wish they were out of a job. I’m against abortions for the same reason I’m against wheelchairs: If somebody needs one, that means that something else has gone wrong. I would certainly love a world in which nobody needed a wheelchair, but I don’t think banning wheelchairs is going to solve the problem.
Likewise, I would love a world where abortion clinics go out of business because nobody has unwanted pregnancies. And I think that most abortion providers (like most wheelchair manufacturers) feel the same way.

But the fact remains that I can make an argument why abortion is moral, and you can make an argument why it isn’t.
The fact that I have a different view of how to help people than you do does not make me evil. It means we disagree. There is a difference.
 
I didn’t say any thing against you in my 1st post. I was stating my opionion about PP.
I have to question why you are on a Catholic forum if you hate my “religion” so much.
I said nothing about muslims, other christian faiths or jewish people I just stated my belief on abortion and stated that I thought the movie had merit.
 
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