Blood Related Strangers: My Indian Family and Reclaiming Our Indian Identities

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I came across this article (a story of thoughts and feelings of an indigenous person living on the west coast of Canada - Vancouver Island)…and it really brought home to me the need for an Aboriginal Catholic theology. We need to be radical on this and go to the roots of the indigenous spirit and work from there and not from a place of Catholic comfort .

People I Don’t Know: Dysfunctional Methods of Family Dinner
Blood Related Strangers: My Indian Family and Reclaiming Our Indian Identities

We all attempt to communicate, my family and I, what do we wish to talk about, I reckon the words we wish to share most and in a truthful moment, we do share our indifferences dealt from a cruel system, but most of the time, we do this by communicating silently; if you listen closely, however, you can hear the pain being spoken and can also honour the fact when you hear my mom laugh, or when she even calls me to tell me about her day, then you can hear the plight and worry yet see the bravery when my Uncle smiles and laughs, too. The way in which he shows me his treasures and collections of random stuff, then you can move past the alcohol my cousin abuses or struggles with or is comfortable with and even spouts his own hatred…He is in fact a talented photographer, painter, musician, then you can feel the disconnection and inner workings of colonization, suppression, oppression, depression. … We Indian peoples have been forcibly removed from a world, an Indian world, a fate of alteration like a seamstress hemming a pair of jeans: forever altering our destiny to be Indian; cutting our lives shorter than warranted, shorted than needed. To work with the lands, not live in angst like our consumer driven lives compel us to do so.

We enjoy the comfortable nature of colonial hatred, of its confusion, of its frustration. “I hate people”, is a phrase I have heard quite a bit, once from my own mouth and then from time to time, from my family members as well. My Uncle has stated these (I hate people) words of expression to me and too many around him numerous times. My mom harbours confusion for his words whilst I understand her angst towards these words. Except, what I hear when he spouts these truthful words is more along the lines of, “I hate what has happened to me, I hate what my foster parents have done to me, I hate that no one loved me, I hate that they will not let me dance like a noble Indian”. The strange thing is and the one thing our family is connected too and shows our relationship as a family, is that he is not alone. I too share the same ideologies not too long ago of holding hatred up high, collected neatly, and utilized inappropriately, “I hate you, or I hate the world, or I hate everybody”. Words I have spoken and knew just once in a distant memory as a close personal ally. Keeping hatred close and letting hatred blanket my reality I built around me.

… My Uncle shared a tale, one of his foster dad whom had told my Uncle to, “Not dance the heathens dance”…what was taking place is that my Uncle danced a family dance, our family dance when he was only twelve years old…the harsh reality, “Heathens dance”, and then having a bible thrown at him. For merely dancing a sacred and noble ancestral practice of the Coastal Salish peoples: dancing with Creator, dancing with the Ancestors.

*** …There is a poem in this article that I have deleted cause of article length and unnecessary swearing, the writer then goes on…***

How do you get by with your family problems, with your family’s highs and lows, how do you let go of stubbornness that nearly debilitates one’s judgement? My stubborn, angry, **** the world attitude once helped me stay alive through my illicit street drug addictions and youth street homeless life and yet, through all this overdosing, death, and beatings, my stubborn attitude is now crippling my mind towards how my family gets along by not letting them in, into my life, into my thoughts of how I hate consumerism, how I hate oil but drive and consume gas. Not letting go, and not letting God, or Creator, whichever you choose, is backwards. In all reality, letting go is going to be the hardest thing I still struggle with to date. Why is this strange though? I mean, ever since I decided to sit in a room and said, “Hey, letting go of crystal meth, easy, admitting I’m an addict and not in control of my addictions anymore, **** you, simple, walking into rehabilitation and at an incredibly young age (19 years old), **** that, no problem, facing Wilkinson Road Jail (maximum security in a Provincial level prison) for stealing cars, stealing stuff, stealing a person’s “security”, accomplice to holding large quantities of crystal meth possession, ****, no feelings or emotions at all for breaking the law of Kanata”.

The complexities of family time somehow perplex my family driven mind. I start to question how much of a family man I truly am when my own blood family wants nothing to do with being together. I theorize about the down fall of our culture and the up rise of tyranny. The separation of the Brits denouncing the Queen as their sovereign brought the union of the United States. Then a war broke and the Brits claiming the Queen fled to the north for safety. Kanata was soon enacted as a country and colonization blanketed the lands with Indian hospitals and then Residential Schools, foster placement homes and forceful removal of Indian children continued in a terrible way, even today. Somehow these choices to expand a racist empire, to then conquer my ancestor’s conquest to be in peace with the lands and forever doomed how we sit down together, how we interact as a whole family unit is now broken into millions of fragmented Salish morals and we are in essence forgotten, casted aside peoples, then means learning how to put these pieces back together.
 
My $0.02 says this man needs something that is neither native spirituality nor comfortable for anyone–but an all encompassing work of the Holy Spirit.

He, and those like him, every man, woman, and child, need to understand that there really was a fully-man fully-God named Jesus who lived and died, for each one of us, as of we were the only one in need of it.

People need the truth of God in a language they can understand, presented by people who have the love of God alive in them. If you want to get radical about something, let it be that.

My mother was half Cherokee, Bruce. She remembers being left at home alone with siblings as just a young child during the years before WWII because her mother would not, for whatever reason, take her half-white children to visit her native family. I remember my grandmother never speaking again to her brother after he married a Seminole woman and moved onto a reservation, forgiving unspoken hurts only as she became a Christian.

It’s the love of God that heals some pain, the blood and body and soul and divinity of Christ that he laid down and poured out for us. Pope Frances has made it clear, jus as any good Shepard, that all are welcome in the fold, but they must accept this Jesus.
 
My $0.02 says this man needs something that is neither native spirituality nor comfortable for anyone–but an all encompassing work of the Holy Spirit.
Tablefor9 I agree. It sounds like your mother (and by the way that makes you Native American too, right) and the writer of this article are saying or living some very similar truths. It’s interesting cause I after I wrote this posting I watched “Finding St Anthony” on Salt and Light TV and it quotes a lot of what St. Anthony of Padua thought and saw; his description of the freedom of the bird to fly to heaven and to leave behind all earthly concerns triggered in my head the Ojibway lessons of how our older brothers and sisters in creation are the animals, plants and the physical world. As I think of the 12 century I think of saints like Francis, Hildegarde De Binen, etc. who captured within the framework of what Jesus of Nazareth himself was saying and the similarity with that and indigenous wisdom.

However, to put it the way you put it to me does not meet a whole lot of pastoral objectives as people should not be made to feel obliged or guilted into a relationship with Our Lord but should come to that realization on their own timing and yes by the promptings of the Holy Spirit, or the Spirit of the Creator, whatever words make one feel comfortable.

I believe that the Holy Spirit is working in the life of that writer and his story is not about him so much as about the struggle common to our people. The denial by western christian fundamentalists or Catholics who are holier than the pope kind of people that the source of native spirituality is not helpful is not to understand native spirituality as that is the core relationship to the Creator as understood by a people and a place prior to contact

As a Cherokee man yourself, have you spent much time looking into the traditions and history of the Cherokee. I know that at one time they were in eastern America and then had to do the “trail of tears” - and how close is that to the Exodus stories… I imagine there were a lot of thoughts and question as to why God had allowed that to happen to the Cherokee at the time of the walk. Your people too have a fascinating history and religious tradition not to mention their spirituality as Cherokee…I don’t know too much about the native spirtiuality of the Cherokee. I did live in Texas for a year and just began to learn about our brothers and sisters in the American southwest and i felt so embrassed and loved by the ancestors in that land and that land itself…anyways just curious as to your understanding of your people’s relationship with the Creator prior to the coming of Christianity and the Europeans…

But overall I agree with the general directions of your statement…

take care

Trickster (and Cherokees have a good understanding of the transformational power of cultural tricksters)

Bruce Ferguson
 
Tablefor9 I just wanted to acknowledge my mistake in assuming that you are a man… when I re-read I immediately saw my assumption so I wanted to acknowledge my mistake there.

Bruce Ferguson
 
Tablefor9… I just began to re-read my response to you and forgive me for assuming that you are a man… I noted that mistake right away and I wanted to acknowledge it right away.

Trickster
 
Trickster

I think that there is definatly a some things in common with the the many native american cultures and the Hebrews. Correct me if I am wrong but don’t most NA cultures tend to see themselves as a people set apart. Don’t the names of most tribal groups usually translate to some variation of “the people” and in the case of the Cheyenne “the human beings”.

One quick question isn’t trickster the characteristic of one of the sprit animals among many native groups?
 
Trickster

I think that there is definatly a some things in common with the the many native american cultures and the Hebrews. Correct me if I am wrong but don’t most NA cultures tend to see themselves as a people set apart. Don’t the names of most tribal groups usually translate to some variation of “the people” and in the case of the Cheyenne “the human beings”.

One quick question isn’t trickster the characteristic of one of the sprit animals among many native groups?
 
Trickster

I think that there is definatly a some things in common with the the many native american cultures and the Hebrews. Correct me if I am wrong but don’t most NA cultures tend to see themselves as a people set apart. Don’t the names of most tribal groups usually translate to some variation of “the people” and in the case of the Cheyenne “the human beings”.

One quick question isn’t trickster the characteristic of one of the sprit animals among many native groups?
Hello AndyP2010. Yes you are correct. I took some courses in the Hebrew Bible and though that we had learned a lot about the Hebrew culture prior to Jesus of Nazareth as well as New Testament studies (Synoptic gospels)…and I have to tell you the similarities between indigneous cultures and Hebrew culture is strong. I think other cultures are similar as well. Yes, even our word “Anishinabeg” means the people… I am not sure that we were egotistical, but we did see other tribal groups as inferior or dangerous. There definitely was a 'them-us" relationship.

The reason I took trickster as a my label name was because it represents transformational characters in many tribal groups; the coyote was a trickster in many indigenous groups as was the Raven in west coast tribal groups (I am from Vancouver, BC) . Transformational to me also means a transformational church that “shape shifts” as new peoples become part of the chruch and the body of Christ becomes those people.

Pope John Paul II in Ft. Simpson, NWT (Canada) told our people that Jesus Christ through the communion of the body of Christ is “aboriginal” as his church is aboriginal in part. That is the transformational theology that I am very interested in exploring and working towards…

Take care and your understanding is reassuring to me…thanks

Bruce Ferguson
or the “Trickster”… 🙂
 
Bruce–

Yes, I am Native American, too, in the same sense as I am Irish-American, because a Bailey Grandfather left West Meath years ago, chasing opportunity and my grandmother.

I married a Cherokee man, and yes, we and our children know and honor our tribal stories (and the Irish ones). We don’t romanticize them, though. We believe, as the Church teaches, that all men are religious in some way, feeling God’s call to know Him and love Him. The stories, especially where they are very like the truth of the Gospel, are types, shadows, hints of a truth yet unknown to the people who made them.

I am not saying we don’t need respectful, dynamic pastoral objectives “free from guilt” (like a conversion based on obligation or guilt means anything, anyway), what I am saying is that we must not exchange the types and shadows for the known Truth. We can’t wander down the build-your-own path of neoreconstructionist paganism and clothe it in the robes of the Catholic Church.
 
Bruce–

Yes, I am Native American, too, in the same sense as I am Irish-American, because a Bailey Grandfather left West Meath years ago, chasing opportunity and my grandmother.

I married a Cherokee man, and yes, we and our children know and honor our tribal stories (and the Irish ones). We don’t romanticize them, though. We believe, as the Church teaches, that all men are religious in some way, feeling God’s call to know Him and love Him. The stories, especially where they are very like the truth of the Gospel, are types, shadows, hints of a truth yet unknown to the people who made them.

I am not saying we don’t need respectful, dynamic pastoral objectives “free from guilt” (like a conversion based on obligation or guilt means anything, anyway), what I am saying is that we must not exchange the types and shadows for the known Truth. We can’t wander down the build-your-own path of neoreconstructionist paganism and clothe it in the robes of the Catholic Church.
Well first of all I know you are a woman now. Sorry again for that assumption on my part. Mea Coupa (excuse my latin spelling 🙂

I am also Celtic on my fathers side; and I actually love Celtic spirituality too…I have attended “Celtic Mass” in the United Church of Canada with a woman minister leading the services. Remarkable service. In many traditions, we all share mixed blood, yet our identity is defined either by western systems or indigenous systems. In the case of our community, your identity comes from the womb you are from, which I don’t really understand because many of our chiefs come from white wombs? Oh well…regardless of our biological make up, we are members of a people…as one other poster noted.

Neoconstructionist paganism is a huge word or expression, what do you mean by it…I’d appreciate your thinking on that aspect.

Bruce Ferguson
trickster
 
Bruce,
I am not quite sure of what you are trying to get at. I think it is great that many people want to embrace their heritage and hold on to certain traditions that identify with their nationalities so that they will not be lost forever. I have a little bit of regret that I did not seek to learn and keep hold of traditions that identify with my German ancestry. Our family’s favorite foods and traditions are an American version of various cultures. Every Sunday is “Taco Sunday” at our house. It would be nice if we had some German tradition or favorite recipe to enjoy. But holding onto traditions that identify us with our ancestors should not be something that makes us go backwards. Whatever we hold on to should not hinder our spiritual growth. I have been amazed at the way in which God speaks to his people even when they have had no way of learning about Him. And I believe that is was a spiritual growth that led Chief Sealth (Chief Seattle) and other native Americans to the Catholic Church when they learned more about God. On the contrary, when I worked with some nuns in prison ministry a couple of decades ago, they seemed to think that native American’s knew and understood more about God than the Catholic Church. Instead of growing in their faith, they were going backwards with the inclusion of things that stem from creation spirituality, wiccan, and other practices and rejecting certain teachings of the Catholic Church.
 
Bruce,
I am not quite sure of what you are trying to get at. I think it is great that many people want to embrace their heritage and hold on to certain traditions that identify with their nationalities so that they will not be lost forever. I have a little bit of regret that I did not seek to learn and keep hold of traditions that identify with my German ancestry. Our family’s favorite foods and traditions are an American version of various cultures. Every Sunday is “Taco Sunday” at our house. It would be nice if we had some German tradition or favorite recipe to enjoy. But holding onto traditions that identify us with our ancestors should not be something that makes us go backwards. Whatever we hold on to should not hinder our spiritual growth. I have been amazed at the way in which God speaks to his people even when they have had no way of learning about Him. And I believe that is was a spiritual growth that led Chief Sealth (Chief Seattle) and other native Americans to the Catholic Church when they learned more about God. On the contrary, when I worked with some nuns in prison ministry a couple of decades ago, they seemed to think that native American’s knew and understood more about God than the Catholic Church. Instead of growing in their faith, they were going backwards with the inclusion of things that stem from creation spirituality, wiccan, and other practices and rejecting certain teachings of the Catholic Church.
👍 This, exactly.

We must first hold solidly to the truth of the Church. She must have our first loyalty, as Mother Church, the Bride of Christ. We are called to know God, and love Him with all our heart, soul, might. This forms the boundary-line inside of which there is plenty of room for free expression of family (little t) traditions.
 
Well first of all I know you are a woman now. Sorry again for that assumption on my part. Mea Coupa (excuse my latin spelling 🙂

I am also Celtic on my fathers side; and I actually love Celtic spirituality too…I have attended “Celtic Mass” in the United Church of Canada with a woman minister leading the services. Remarkable service. In many traditions, we all share mixed blood, yet our identity is defined either by western systems or indigenous systems. In the case of our community, your identity comes from the womb you are from, which I don’t really understand because many of our chiefs come from white wombs? Oh well…regardless of our biological make up, we are members of a people…as one other poster noted.

Neoconstructionist paganism is a huge word or expression, what do you mean by it…I’d appreciate your thinking on that aspect.

Bruce Ferguson
trickster
Bruce–

Many people, be they retirees or teenagers, are looking for their identity. The truth of the matter is that our identity comes from who we are in Jesus Christ, and the life we build in service to others, lived out in the context of our culture or society. For example, I am a faithful (not perfect, but reaching for faith every day) Catholic mother of 7 (part of my identity) who serves the community as a Childbirth Educator, Labor and Delivery Nurse, and community herbalist (another part of my identity, tied to how I live out the Gospel), married to an Assemblies of God minister who, like me, has close familial ties to the Eastern Band Cherokee (a cogent piece of my context).

Now for the piece that may fit better in Non-Catholic Religions:

Neoreconstructionist, or just reconstructionist, paganism is when people who may or may not have a living, familial link to a historical people group try to rebuild or reclaim the lifestyle and/or spirituality of that group. This is usually pantheistic, with the person picking and choosing which entities belong in their pantheon. Also, this may or may not include the practice of witchcraft. Needless to say, all of this is verboten, and is why I am uneasy when those of goodwill would seem to be drawn to it.
 
Bruce,
I am not quite sure of what you are trying to get at. I think it is great that many people want to embrace their heritage and hold on to certain traditions that identify with their nationalities so that they will not be lost forever. I have a little bit of regret that I did not seek to learn and keep hold of traditions that identify with my German ancestry. Our family’s favorite foods and traditions are an American version of various cultures. Every Sunday is “Taco Sunday” at our house. It would be nice if we had some German tradition or favorite recipe to enjoy. But holding onto traditions that identify us with our ancestors should not be something that makes us go backwards. Whatever we hold on to should not hinder our spiritual growth. I have been amazed at the way in which God speaks to his people even when they have had no way of learning about Him. And I believe that is was a spiritual growth that led Chief Sealth (Chief Seattle) and other native Americans to the Catholic Church when they learned more about God. On the contrary, when I worked with some nuns in prison ministry a couple of decades ago, they seemed to think that native American’s knew and understood more about God than the Catholic Church. Instead of growing in their faith, they were going backwards with the inclusion of things that stem from creation spirituality, wiccan, and other practices and rejecting certain teachings of the Catholic Church.
I agree with you. “Identity”, “culture”, etc., are part of who one is. These are gifts and tools to be used to understand the world before oneself. I did not get the sense that the writer of the article was talking about going backwards in time, nor living in a world devoid of the non-indigenous. One point that I believe is to be made is that unlike your situation, where “loss” (if you can call it that) was more a series of choices and realities for a people who made a choice to come to North America than the reality of a people where there was no choice. Worse yet, everything that a people knew was declared invalid by the settler community and this declaration was then enforced with an inter-generational plan strategy of 'intentional" “de-indigenizing a person” of which our church was a major player. That, I think is what the writer is saying… and it is an opinion I believe to be valid.

In terms of “aboriginal spirituality” I do not agree that it can be described as neo-pagan or wicca. I do like Rev. Dr. Matthew Fox’s work on Creation Spirituality and I see some capacity to use that as a model to create a fuller voice in helping indigenous people develop a stronger “starting point” with the church in order to have catholic teaching inform our indigenous spirituality. but equally to have our indigneous spirituality honored in a manner that informs our catholicism.

Thanks for your thoughts. I like your points and I agree with most of it… look forward to your thoughts.

Bruce Ferguson
Trickster
 
Bruce–

Many people, be they retirees or teenagers, are looking for their identity. The truth of the matter is that our identity comes from who we are in Jesus Christ, and the life we build in service to others, lived out in the context of our culture or society. For example, I am a faithful (not perfect, but reaching for faith every day) Catholic mother of 7 (part of my identity) who serves the community as a Childbirth Educator, Labor and Delivery Nurse, and community herbalist (another part of my identity, tied to how I live out the Gospel), married to an Assemblies of God minister who, like me, has close familial ties to the Eastern Band Cherokee (a cogent piece of my context).

Now for the piece that may fit better in Non-Catholic Religions:

Neoreconstructionist, or just reconstructionist, paganism is when people who may or may not have a living, familial link to a historical people group try to rebuild or reclaim the lifestyle and/or spirituality of that group. This is usually pantheistic, with the person picking and choosing which entities belong in their pantheon. Also, this may or may not include the practice of witchcraft. Needless to say, all of this is verboten, and is why I am uneasy when those of goodwill would seem to be drawn to it.
OK. I think I understand your point now a bit better. I had to re-read your statement "I am saying is that we must not exchange the types and shadows for the known Truth. We can’t wander down the build-your-own path of neoreconstructionist paganism and clothe it in the robes of the Catholic Church ". I can see your criticism fitting new age theft and reinvetion of our indigenous “identity”… but you, I and this writer are not disconnected biologically from that identity. That was an aspect of a “syncretic” criticism that I heard before, so it expands my understanding on that perspective. And again, I don’t see that myself in the writer’s writing.

The herbal connection is fascinating, my great grandma was known as a medicine person but not of the shaman type, rather she knew all the medicinal uses of the plant in her area…and I have often had dreams about plants and was told to find them as that plant has medicine for me to use. Pretty hard to do in an urban environment…so that bit of history of yourself resonates with me… Yes, people are in search of idenity, I think the difference between the writer, myself is that we are not searching, we are reclaiming an identitty that was systemtatically beaten, and psychologiclly removed from us on an inter-generational basis…and that would be why my take on your first point might differ a degree…

Thanks again and I look forward to your thoughts.

Bruce Ferguson
Trickster
 
In terms of “aboriginal spirituality” I do not agree that it can be described as neo-pagan or wicca. I do like Rev. Dr. Matthew Fox’s work on Creation Spirituality and I see some capacity to use that as a model to create a fuller voice in helping indigenous people develop a stronger “starting point” with the church in order to have catholic teaching inform our indigenous spirituality. but equally to have our indigneous spirituality honored in a manner that informs our catholicism.

Thanks for your thoughts. I like your points and I agree with most of it… look forward to your thoughts.

Bruce Ferguson
Trickster
For clarification, I was not associating “aboriginal spirituality” with neo-pagan or wiccan. I do not know anything about it to make any kind of comment on it. Rather, I was referring to those particular nuns that I volunteered with who were going backward embracing some aspects of wiccan, creation spirituality, new age, etc. as well as distorted versions of Catholic rituals. For example, I accompanied the prison “Catholic chaplain” to the isolation cells. She was blessing them on the forehead with a very fragrant oil. I commented on how nice it smelled. She said it was from Avon and she gave it a blessing of sorts :rolleyes:.

Regarding Fr. Matthew Fox’s Creation Spirituality, some of his concern may be alright, but there is so much about his work that is a problem. Read, Catholicism for the New Age: Matthew Fox and Creation-Centered Spirituality by Fr. Mitchell Pacwa S.J. ,
 
The herbal connection is fascinating, my great grandma was known as a medicine person but not of the shaman type, rather she knew all the medicinal uses of the plant in her area…and I have often had dreams about plants and was told to find them as that plant has medicine for me to use. Pretty hard to do in an urban environment…so that bit of history of yourself resonates with me… Yes, people are in search of idenity, I think the difference between the writer, myself is that we are not searching, we are reclaiming an identitty that was systemtatically beaten, and psychologiclly removed from us on an inter-generational basis…and that would be why my take on your first point might differ a degree…

Thanks again and I look forward to your thoughts.

Bruce Ferguson
Trickster
What I know of plant and herb began at my mother’s knee, and I have studied more over the years. While I still have much more to learn, it fits nicely with my birth work, and with the worldview I hold.

As far as divergent views on identity, I believe my first point is that our identity comes from who we are in Jesus Christ and how we serve God and other in the context of our culture.

Matthew 22:37 or thereabouts Jesus says the greatest commandment is to love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul, and mind. The second is to love your neighbor as yourself. This is the law and prophets.

CCC Paragraphs 1, 27, & 31 just to start all speak of how Man is made for God and called to know and love Him. This is our highest calling, our grandest allegiance.

Do I think it’s wrong to study tribal or ancestral history? No, actually, I’m the family genealogist and historian. When friend or family needs to know a custom for any holiday, Church or civic, I get that phone call. It is good to keep cultural context, but even this is not the primary focus of who we are.

I believe there is a line that is easily crossed in Native American (Celtic, too, but I’m trying not to derail) spiritual practices that would move a faithful Catholic to a place they should no longer be comfortable walking.

Blessings,
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