Body and Blood

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Is it okay to just take the body, and not the blood during church?
 
Stephanie_Bacho said:
Is it okay to just take the body, and not the blood during church?
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You have posted on the non-Catholic forum, so let’s make a few clarifications:

If you are not a Catholic, you should refrain from receiving the Eucharist in the Catholic Church.

If you are a Catholic, you should refrain from participation in any communion service of a non-Catholic ecclesial community.

If you are a *Catholic *and are talking about receiving the Eucharist *in the Catholic Church *then yes you can receive under one or both species. It is your decision.

And, just one other point: Catholic *receive *the Body and Blood of Christ, we do not *take *it.
 
1ke said:
You have posted on the non-Catholic forum, so let’s make a few clarifications:

If you are not a Catholic, you should refrain from receiving the Eucharist in the Catholic Church.

If you are a Catholic, you should refrain from participation in any communion service of a non-Catholic ecclesial community.

If you are a *Catholic *and are talking about receiving the Eucharist *in the Catholic Church *then yes you can receive under one or both species. It is your decision.

And, just one other point: Catholic *receive *the Body and Blood of Christ, we do not *take *it.
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So even though Christ says to receive both you still say receiving one is Ok??
 
If you take one or the other you are receiving the body AND blood of Jesus. If there is a host and that host is broken into two pieces, each piece contains the complete body and blood of Jesus, even if that host is broken many times into more pieces, each piece is complete. Now somewhere in the NT is a passage that makes it clear that the body and blood of Jesus is complete in both species. Maybe someone else is familiar with that scripture and can point it out.

P.S. I found it: “Whosoever”, says the Apostle, “shall eat this bread or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body **and **of the blood of the Lord” i.e. whoever receives either unworthily is guilty of both. 1 Cor 11:27
 
NDfan said:
So even though Christ says to receive both you still say receiving one is Ok??
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Each species contains the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ. In receiving either, we receive both.
 
ricko said:
If you take one or the other you are receiving the body AND blood of Jesus. If there is a host and that host is broken into two pieces, each piece contains the complete body and blood of Jesus, even if that host is broken many times into more pieces, each piece is complete. Now somewhere in the NT is a passage that makes it clear that the body and blood of Jesus is complete in both species. Maybe someone else is familiar with that scripture and can point it out.

P.S. I found it: “Whosoever”, says the Apostle, “shall eat this bread or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body **and **of the blood of the Lord” i.e. whoever receives either unworthily is guilty of both. 1 Cor 11:27
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No where to be found in scripture.
 
NDfan,
So if I get a bigger piece, do I get more Jesus?

If they run out of Blood, do I get nothing?

Can Jesus be divided? If he is not present Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, where are his Soul and Divinity? Is one in the Body and the other in the Blood? Is it like a Chemical reaction where both must be present to have Jesus?

I know it may sound like I am making fun, but I am not. This are the same questions that the Church has handled for years
 
P.S. I found it: “Whosoever”, says the Apostle, “shall eat this bread or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord” i.e. whoever receives either unworthily is guilty of both. 1 Cor 11:27
No where to be found in scripture.

What a novel notion–that St. Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians is not to be found in scripture!

What kind of Bible do you read? The Non Inspired Version?

Of course, revivals, altar calls, and invitation hymns are not to be found in Scripture, either.

Nor are hymnals, pews, or even church buildings.
 
ralphinal said:
NDfan,
So if I get a bigger piece, do I get more Jesus?

If they run out of Blood, do I get nothing?

Can Jesus be divided? If he is not present Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity, where are his Soul and Divinity? Is one in the Body and the other in the Blood? Is it like a Chemical reaction where both must be present to have Jesus?

I know it may sound like I am making fun, but I am not. This are the same questions that the Church has handled for years
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Ralph,
Like lots of subjects, this one comes around fairly regularly. Would you say that, since Christ offered both to the 12, that one could say receiving both would be preferable, everything else being equal (no health issues, etc)?

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Would you say that, since Christ offered both to the 12, that one could say receiving both would be preferable, everything else being equal (no health issues, etc)?
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If one species contains the fullness of Christ; body, blood, soul and divinity, then why would receiving both be preferable (which I understand in this context to mean normatively superior)?

Does someone who has health issues that prevents them from receiving both, somehow receive less?

One person might prefer to receive under both species, while another might prefer to receive under only one species. Both of them receive Christ fully.
 
=Thomas63116;4898900]If one species contains the fullness of Christ; body, blood, soul and divinity, then why would receiving both be preferable (which I understand in this context to mean normatively superior)?
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I would say normatively superior because that was how Christ instituted.
Does someone who has health issues that prevents them from receiving both, somehow receive less?
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Absolutely not! I excluded this instance only to compare receiving under one to under both. But certainly the sacrament and its benefits are received by those receiving under one, especially, but not exclusively, because of health issues.
One person might prefer to receive under both species, while another might prefer to receive under only one species. Both of them receive Christ fully.
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As this has been the practice of Rome for centuries, I would believe that her faithful members do receive the full benefits of the sacrament.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Ralph,
Like lots of subjects, this one comes around fairly regularly. Would you say that, since Christ offered both to the 12, that one could say receiving both would be preferable, everything else being equal (no health issues, etc)?

Jon
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Preferable yes, required no.

First, the 12 were the first Bishops. The Church uses that as one reason that only the priest is required to consume both.

Second, as pointed out, there are times that both cannot be taken. Health needs are one. Another can be logistics. It is crazy to say that those who are alergic to wheat or sit in the back of the Church are denied Jesus.

I know that you question was a yes or no. I just had to put more into it.
 
I’d prefer to receive both species. But you need to think about this sometimes. The “body” includes the “blood”. The “blood” is in the “body”. Many people, for various reasons, cannot or prefer not to receive the wine, the blood. (Perhaps it also goes the other way but I haven’t heard so much of that.) It’s a choice. Both species contain the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus and when we receive it we are assimilated into Him. It’s an intimate reception of Jesus and the means by which we are assimilated into His body. That’s the point. Nit-picking about the rest is an unproductive exercise.
 
ralphinal said:
Preferable yes, required no.

First, the 12 were the first Bishops. The Church uses that as one reason that only the priest is required to consume both.

Second, as pointed out, there are times that both cannot be taken. Health needs are one. Another can be logistics. It is crazy to say that those who are alergic to wheat or sit in the back of the Church are denied Jesus.

I know that you question was a yes or no. I just had to put more into it.
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A reasonable response, and POV. Thanks

Jon
 
LutheranDK said:
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There’s something I’ve missed, it seems…When did the laity in the RC church get the go-ahead to recieve both the bread and wine?
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They used to have it years ago, then it was changed. It was changed back in the universal Church in the early part of the last century, I think, with it being encouraged by VII.
 
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