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Does anyone have any RECENT experience with boy scouts either favorable or unfavorable ? I’m interested in comments people who actually have boys as scouts or who personally work with them or who have done so in the last year or so; not recounts of what they read or heard from other sources outside their own experience.
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Other than a long-winded cubmaster, our first year (Tiger Cubs) was pretty good. Our son had fun, anyway. The Boy Scout’s strong central organization is key, as is the focus on working on badges or working toward specific objectives.

Our daughter’s year in Girl Scouts was the exact opposite. The success of the Girl Scout program depends entirely on the organization and skill of the leader. When, for example, the leader takes the troop to another school, along with the funds your daughter helped to raise and the Girl Scout organization does nothing to help, it tends to sour your experience.

We are continuing in the Boy Scouts, not Girl Scouts.

Cathy
 
Cathy:
I only have one daughter so I don’t know anything about Boy Scouts. I would have assumed it is like Girl Scouts. I have been involved in scouting as a leader for my daughter’s troops for 8 years. Mostly I don’t know why I stay. It is SOOOO politically correct. And the fund-raising absolutely kills me. The badges have gone from sewing, cooking, camping, and crafts to women’s history, your feelings, and other such rubbish. I just would like my daughter to learn how to sew, knit, cook, camp, sing songs, hang out with nice girls, and so on. So many GS functions and programs are disorganized, done poorly, done shabbily. My daughter went to GS day camp a few years ago. The counselors were all European college girls hired as a contract from some international personnel company. The counselors were not Girl Scouts, spoke accented English, and only came to have a summer job in the US for the summer. The girls were given plastic lanyard lacing but no one knew how to make a lanyard. The rest of the crafts were basically crayons and paper. Supervised swimming but no lessons, no singing GS songs (because the foreign counselors did not know any). You get the picture. Long story short, it was the last year she went to camp.
 
I don’t know what specificially you are asking but I have been involved with the Boy Scout program for a long time. It is a great program. Some troops are better then others. When you are looking for a troop, make sure you check all of them in your area. I am an Eagle Scout and I recently stepped down from being a Scoutmaster of a local troop due to my newborn but I am still a Committee member of the troop.

Some troops stress camping, scout skills, some troops schedule “play” more. Some troops are strict with discipline (I don’t mean they beat the kids, just that they put up with less horseplay), some are lose with it.

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask, either via message or PM.
 
My husband has been involved with Scouts for many years. He was a Scout Master and worked at the Scout Camp for several summers (I worked there for one summer).

Our oldest son learned a lot from it and the camping trips were most valuable.

The only reason we are not involved now is because our youngest son is not interested in scouting …

But I have little to complain of concerning the time we put into it…except they should have made my husband Camp Director…but Council Politics intervened…but that had nothing to do with the day to day workings with the boys.

dream wanderer
 
La Chiara,

Yikes on the day camp! I can see why you wouldn’t want to go back!
Many moons ago I worked at a Girl Scout camp (an overnight one) and although we didn’t do any badges per se, we did lots of fun stuff, canoeing, hiking, swimming. Definitely wasn’t all paper and crayons. In fact, I don’t remember any paper and crayons at all. I still remember all those goofy Girl Scout songs, too!

Boy Scouts are usually inclusive of the othe kids in the family for many events. Siblings can do their own Pinewood Derby car (as can parents and they get pretty competitive.) There is a family campout in the fall. We had a good first year. We’ll see how this year goes!

Cathy
 
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roemer:
Does anyone have any RECENT experience with boy scouts either favorable or unfavorable ? I’m interested in comments people who actually have boys as scouts or who personally work with them or who have done so in the last year or so; not recounts of what they read or heard from other sources outside their own experience.
Thanks
Over all I have had good experiences with the Boy Scouts. Both of my boys that are of age are in Scouting. I am currently involved as a volunteer leader in both a Troop and a Pack. I have worked for the Boy Scouts in a professional capacity. I was a Scout as a youth and attained the Rank of Eagle.

If I didn’t think it was a good program my boys wouldn’t be in it. The reason I volunteer is to make sure it stays a good program.

If you have any questions in particular please feel free to contact me.

Bill
 
The Boy scouts are a great organization.My oldest son is Star rank,my second is a Webelo, and my youngest is a Tiger.My oldest likes the camping aspect the most-sleeping outdoors,hiking,fishing.The self discipline and leadership skills that are attained are unparalleled.
Investigate several troops before deciding which one is best for your Scout(and let your son decide).My son’s troop is associated with our parish.The Boy Scouts also emphasize strengthening one’s relationship with God,at a time when a young man may be looking elsewhere.
 
We loved our Tiger Cub year, and I was a den mother. I think it is great how the Boy Scouts allow the whole family to come camping and participate in the pinewood derby. My preschool daughter enjoyed all the events as well. I was a Girl Scout for many years, but I couldn’t really compare it since it was so long ago.

My son especially enjoyed the outings where they went to a Boy Scout Camp and shot arrows, used compasses and pretended to be Pirates. He also loved the camping.

I thought the activities in the den meetings were worthwhile, but sometimes a little crazy with 11 boys in my house after school.
 
I was in an excellent troop that had a waiting list to get in. Adult leadership and interest are the key. We did a huge amount of outdoor activities like camping etc. We went on high adventure trips to Philmont. Churned out a whole slew of Eagle scouts, including me. I still use what I learned. In college I worked in a National Park and routinely went on overnight trips hiking through the wilderness. I never got lost or had problems. It is a great program which deserves support after being under assault these last few years.
 
I was a CubMaster (Cub Scouts) for 6+ years and am a Committee Member for Troop 606 (to which my two sons belong). My oldest son is a Life Scout, and my youngest is almost a First Class.

BSA is a great program for young boys. They have not “sold out” to political correctness like other youth organizations. They still teach the core Christian values that Lord Baden Powell (and his friend, Juliette Gordon Low) professed more than a century ago.
 
My son is in his first year of Boy Scouts … and almost to Tenderfoot. Like many other posters it all depends on the Troop you will join. It is best to visit the meetings of a few troops to get the feel of the Troop.

I have been very impressed by the Troop my son is in. The leadership is very committed and so are many of the parents who serve on the various committees. I am finding the Boy Scouts a much better experience than Cub Scouts. I think Scouts is a great way to give kids some responsibility and leadership that will benefit them in the future and plus he is having fun while learning.
 
Well, I loved Boy Scouts. I did it for about 4.5 years and got my Eagle. I had a blast camping and learning outdoor skills. If your son is going into Boy Scouts, he should in my opinion take on responsibility within about 6 months so he can get leadership experience. I basically ran the troop for about 3 years and though it was hard work at times, I appreciate my ability to deal with people a lot now.

Thus, I think Boy Scouts is a very valuable experience and incredibly fun if your child is interested in camping and other Scout activities. I also made one of my best friends in Scouts and we work on our cars together.

Eamon
 
I don’t have any RECENT experiences with scouting. My son is 29 now but he was in the boy scouts. In fact he made it all the way to Eagle! I honestly think it was the best thing we got him into. We didn’t have a lot of money for vacations so scouting let him have experiences such as camping trips, canoeing, learning experiences, etc. Plus it teaches him respect for nature, getting along with the other boys and a sense of competition for merit badges. I would highly recommend scouting for boys (and girls).
 
I was a cub scout as a child, but never a boy scout. Then, when I was in college, I had an opportunity to work for one of the BSA’s National High Adventure Bases.

I spent two summers and a winter break living in northern Minnesota and Canada. That experience shaped my life profoundly. To this day I only wish I would have taken another summer up there.

Alas, if the salary could only support a family.
 
Regarding Boy Scouts: My wife and I decided long ago that our son WOULD be involved in Scouting at the earliest opportunity - not only so he could be in the company of other boys his age (there are none in our neighborhood) but also so he and I would have something to do together. He entered Tiger Cubs in first grade; I was his adult partner.

After the Blue & Gold Banquet in February of his first year, I volunteered to become a Leader. I did all the training, including going to University of Scouting. We have gone camping a few times; we’re going this weekend with the Pack and Troop.

Both years, he has earned his rank badge in time to have it presented at the Blue & Gold Banquet. He earned 50 Arrow Points this year, as well as the Emergency Preparedness pin and his “Light of Christ” religious award. He has now served as my Denner twice. He wants to earn all the religious awards, his Arrow of Light, his Eagle and be named to the Order of the Arrow. At 8 years of age, he has learned the Scout Law and wants to make it his personal code of conduct.

I told him that I was glad he was enjoying Scouting, because he’s going to be in it until he gets his Eagle or turns 18 - whichever comes first! Even if he left Scouting, I’m going to stay in - I’m having too much fun to quit!
 
My son isn’t old enough yet to be involved but I have a continuing interest after my own Scouting experience as a youth, and stay informed on local activities. A co-worker is very active, assistant scoutmaster of a local troop and leads a Venturing crew as well as helping at hte council/district level, and we often talk about Scouting issues (and a few times I’ve helped them out on short term projects). Boy Scouts of America (Scouting USA) is rock-solid morally and are very effective at cultivating youth into leaders - which is why they are such a big target of the anti-religious and anti-family organizations.

There is the occasional lemon of a troop but that’s the exception. I was in one as a kid, 4 inactive scoutmasters in a row will kill a previously active troop. The local council does try to help straighten things out when there are problems. When it became obvious that our troop was dissolving because of bad management, other troops made an effort to pull us into thier programs and get us back on track. My Cub scout experience was excellent, and from what I can tell, current programs have only gotten better while not messing with what works.
 
I probably have about as much experience with the Boy Scouts as anyone my age can have. I have been continuosly registered since 1992 (Cub Scouts before that), am an Eagle Scout, and have worked 6 summers at Boy Scout camp (3 at local level, 3 at Philmont).

Boy Scouts is completely compatible with Catholic morality, and is excellent for the formation of any young male. As mentioned, as an organization the Boy Scouts are unwilling to give in to modern moral relativism. They continue to hold fast to their moral standards, even when this has cost them money and required expensive court battles. For example, the Boy Scouts continues to regard homosexuality (I presume activity, not just orientation) as incompatible with the Scout oath and morality, despite the loss of funding and meeting venues that this has caused in places. (punished by anti-“discrimination” policies) With respect to religion, while the organization does not distinguish between religions, reverence to a higher power is one point of the Scout Law.

This brings up an important point regarding religion. The Boy Scouts, while encouraging religious development, does not advocate any particular religion. This must be distinguished from indiffentism; the Boy Scouts does not make any claims or ever teach that all religions are equal, it merely makes no judgements of the truth of various religions. Instead, it teaches that people must be treated with respect, regardless of their religion, and affirms that reverence is a necessary part of being an upright person.

As a Scout, a boy may be exposed to interfaith worship. Summer camps will often have a chapel service at least one night, as may camporees, etc. Frequently grace is said before meals. There is nothing incompatible with Catholic theology in this… in fact, these services are generally planned to be compatible with all religions. As an example, the standard Philmont grace is:
 
I probably have about as much experience with the Boy Scouts as anyone my age can have. I have been continuosly registered since 1992 (Cub Scouts before that), am an Eagle Scout, and have worked 6 summers at Boy Scout camp (3 at local level, 3 at Philmont).

Boy Scouts is completely compatible with Catholic morality, and is excellent for the formation of any young male. As mentioned, as an organization the Boy Scouts are unwilling to give in to modern moral relativism. They continue to hold fast to their moral standards, even when this has cost them money and required expensive court battles. For example, the Boy Scouts continues to regard homosexuality (I presume activity, not just orientation) as incompatible with the Scout oath and morality, despite the loss of funding and meeting venues that this has caused in places. (punished by anti-“discrimination” policies) With respect to religion, while the organization does not distinguish between religions, reverence to a higher power is one point of the Scout Law.

This brings up an important point regarding religion. The Boy Scouts, while encouraging religious development, does not advocate any particular religion. This must be distinguished from indiffentism; the Boy Scouts does not make any claims or ever teach that all religions are equal, it merely makes no judgements of the truth of various religions. Instead, it teaches that people must be treated with respect, regardless of their religion, and affirms that reverence is a necessary part of being an upright person. The determination of which religion is true is left up to the individual.

As a Scout, a boy may occaissionally be exposed to interfaith worship. Summer camps will often have a chapel service at least one night, as may camporees, etc. Frequently grace is said before meals. There is nothing incompatible with Catholic theology in this… in fact, these services are generally planned to be compatible with all religions. As an example, the standard Philmont grace is:

“For food, for rainment, for life, for opportunity, for friendship and fellowship, we thank thee o Lord.”

As you can see, the theological content is intentionally minimal. Another example were the chapel services held at the council camp I worked at. Songs would be sung that while acknowledging and praising God, did not really define whose version of God. (think “America the Beautiful”) The closest it ever came to a specific religion was when the camp chaplain (in this case Jewish, pre-rabbinical) would speak. He would tell traditional Jewish stories about morality. However, these were basically a cross between parables and fairy tales, and never specifically Jewish in what they were suggesting, just in origin and style. However, I would consider carefully being a member of a troop that is all one faith except for you, as they might not make the same effort to have all services, etc. be interfaith. A troop that is mixed or of your religion, however, will be fine.

At the same time, while sometimes holding interfaith services, the Boy Scouts strongly advocates faithful adherence to ones own religion, whichever that may be, and never intends its services to supercede those of your own religion. Philmont (as a large enough camp) maintains Jewish, Protestant, LDS, and Catholic chapels and chaplains. (Mass is celebrated daily) (Islamic, Hindu, etc would probably also be offered if there were enough demand.) The prayerbook provided to Scouts at Philmont, in addition to containing an interfaith daily reflections, also contains ones for specific religions, and individuals and crews are free to use whichever one is compatible with them. (An all Jewish crew could use the Jewish prayer section. I personally found the Muslim section useful, though I was more interested in the sunrise and sunset table it contained than its religious content.)

Basically, the Boy Scouts does not distinguish between different religions, but encourages each Scout to faithfully follow his own religion. A Scout can earn a religious emblem (not required for any rank), with programs offered by most religions and administered by religious authorities of that religion. Additionally, Eagle, the highest rank requires three letters of recommendation: one from a school official, one from your parents, and one from your religious leader. So, Boy Scouts is quite compatible with Catholicism, and actually encourages a Catholic to be a good Catholic.

As to whether Scouts develop boys into the kind of men one would want ones sons to become… A significant fraction of the males that I know at my university that are actively involved, whether in the Knights of Columbus, as altar servers, or singing in the choir are Eagle Scouts, and still proud of the fact. The path to Eagle Scout develops character, leadership ability, and confidence.
 
Boy Scouts is a great organization and a great experience for boys. The Cub Scouts have a different approach due to the ages of the boys. ( a parent-run group)
A boy may join when he is eleven. It teaches him leadership skills. The Boy Scouts is a boy-run organization.
My husband , my brother-in-law, my oldest twin sons are Eagle Scouts. My 16-year-old is working on his requirements diligently so that he can make Eagle before he turns 18. My 12-year old is also active in the same troop.
They learn many useful skills for everyday and emergency situations. They learn about all sorts of careers and fields.
Our Boy Scout council was defunded by the local United Way.
So you may be assured that they are a worthy organization to support and to have your sons be involved in.
Having attained Eagle Scout is also a big plus when he applies for jobs. Employers like it.
So stop buying the Girl Scout cookies and buy popcorn instead.
Our Girl Scout Council has an official relationship with our local Planned Parenthood.
You can’t compare Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts at all. One is the real thing and the other is pale, PC banana.

My sons and my husband all like the Boy Scouts. A lot of vets are often time involved. My twins’ Scoutmaster was a former Marine seargent and Vietnam vet. He taught them at 13 how to rapel down a cliff like he did getting out of a helicopter-Australian style.
 
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