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Has anyone read any books or articles by people like Andrew Newberg and other neuroscientists who say that our spiritual experiences are due to brain function and brain wiring?

Mario Beauregard sn’t a materialist and he says otherwise. I’d like to learn of more reputable neuroscientists who are open to God and spirituality.
 
What im getting at, is there any neuroscientists besides Mario Beauregard who believes hat God and spirituality are real? Or do they all think its just a product of our brains?
 
What about the spirit and God, our Great Spirit activating our brain and wiring?

Let us use the metaphor of electrical wiring: we notice when it is faulty and blame the wires and/or the electrician. Who made the wires? Who made the copper that goes into the wire? Who made the tiniest molecule that became copper, was mined, manufactured, sold and used to wire a car, home, or appliance?

Two people can suffer the same blow to the head and yet one acts peculiar and gets brain damage while the other gets a bruise and a headache and is better next month. Why?

The nerve “wiring” in our body takes up less than 2% of the space yet enervates our senses: eyes, ears, mouth, nose, and touch, as well as all of the organs of the body. It is amazing that it doesn’t run askew more often than it does.

Is it just a random turn of the wheel or is there an order?

Many want to work the “random” idea lately, believing it is brave and true; what if the braver and truer theory were that there is a much wiser, higher, power whose actions appear random at times but who actually has an order, an infinite intelligence, a great power, light, and love. My brain feels more wired toward that possibility. Human actions and behaviors throughout time indicate the presence of something deeper and much more personal.

If there are few scientists pursuing God in the equation, we might question the bias in science. Wouldn’t the God option be worth some consideration at the very least when we ponder the human brain?.
 
Does anybody have a fairly recent poll telling us the percentage of doctors who believe in God?
 
The neuroscience can only talk about the physical aspect of a spiritual experience. There will always be a physical aspect to any experience.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
The neuroscience can only talk about the physical aspect of a spiritual experience. There will always be a physical aspect to any experience.
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Why can’t it talk about God or the soul? I know Mario Beauregard isn’t a materialist and believes in God and the soul. Who else besides him, Van Pimmel (sp), Phillip Yancey?
 
Faith1960 said:
Why can’t it talk about God or the soul? I know Mario Beauregard isn’t a materialist and believes in God and the soul. Who else besides him, Van Pimmel (sp), Phillip Yancey?
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Yancy’s not a doctor, though.
 
Faith1960 said:
Why can’t it talk about God or the soul? I know Mario Beauregard isn’t a materialist and believes in God and the soul. Who else besides him, Van Pimmel (sp), Phillip Yancey?
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They can believe in God but they cannot examine God in the lab, only brain states that might correlate to experiences of God…
 
I don’t know of neuroscientists who believe in God per se, but then I haven’t got much interest in the matter. I’ve had too many spiritual experiences that have come out of the blue for me to give godless neuroscientists much credence (eg. my father turning in my room the night he died and having a conversation with him, minus his brain; a pastor who was uncannily accurate with reference to future events; three x “double whammies”, heavy gripping pressures at night; the bed shaking on one occasion (demonic); one occasion where a sense of anger descended on me and I thought I was literally going to disintegrate when I was, and other things).

I’ve also heard too many other stories from trustworthy Christians to care much about what atheists think.

But you may find the following link readable, and the quotes at the end might be worth following up -

thinkchristianly.org/the-god-gene-neuroscience-and-the-soul/

It’s just a case of the old story - from the outside, Christianity appears “foolish”, but from the inside, it’s God’s power to save.
 
Are there any associations for doctors that list their number of members?
Ever since I read an article about neurobiology in Christanity Today, the other day, ive been worked up over the brain and spirituality.
 
Faith1960 said:
Are there any associations for doctors that list their number of members?
Ever since I read an article about neurobiology in Christanity Today, the other day, ive been worked up over the brain and spirituality.
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*neurotheology, not neurobiology
 
How can we know that our spiritual experiences are real, when some scientists say our experiences are products of the brain?
 
The common thinking is that everything we experience is simply the wiring of our brains that allegedly continued to self-upgrade over millions of years. Not only is there no evidence of this, it is merely a materialist supposition. Worldview matters. The scientific method has imposed limitations. Though a few experiments have been done to link mystical/religious experiences to brain states, such things are inconclusive. If the goal is to reduce God to a brain wiring circumstance, then that would explain why some scientists have a desire to go beyond what science can demonstrate and draw philosophical conclusions that they cannot know are valid.

Ed
 
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The common thinking is that everything we experience is simply the wiring of our brains that allegedly continued to self-upgrade over millions of years. Not only is there no evidence of this, it is merely a materialist supposition. Worldview matters. The scientific method has imposed limitations. Though a few experiments have been done to link mystical/religious experiences to brain states, such things are inconclusive. If the goal is to reduce God to a brain wiring circumstance, then that would explain why some scientists have a desire to go beyond what science can demonstrate and draw philosophical conclusions that they cannot know are valid.

Ed
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edwest2 said:
The common thinking is that everything we experience is simply the wiring of our brains that allegedly continued to self-upgrade over millions of years. Not only is there no evidence of this, it is merely a materialist supposition. Worldview matters. The scientific method has imposed limitations. Though a few experiments have been done to link mystical/religious experiences to brain states, such things are inconclusive. If the goal is to reduce God to a brain wiring circumstance, then that would explain why some scientists have a desire to go beyond what science can demonstrate and draw philosophical conclusions that they cannot know are valid.

Ed
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What do you all think of this? Can anyone debunk their claims with more recent findings?

Www.independent.co.uk/news/science/light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel-for-scientists-studying-near death-experiences-8758148.html
 
Faith1960 said:
Has anyone read any books or articles by people like Andrew Newberg and other neuroscientists who say that our spiritual experiences are due to brain function and brain wiring?

Mario Beauregard sn’t a materialist and he says otherwise. I’d like to learn of more reputable neuroscientists who are open to God and spirituality.
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Thats consciousness that cause brain wiring and not vice versa.,
 
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