Brands and Pride Month

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Hey everyone! So, it’s LGBT pride month, and of course all the brands are changing their logos to the pride flag and selling limited-edition products in rainbow colors. I was wondering if it’s a sin to shop from brands that do this? I wouldn’t be buying any of the limited edition items, of course, but I just mean shopping from them in general.

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Nope not a sin. You’re not supporting that agenda and you’re not buying the pride themed products
 
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Not as high-quality. For example, if I’m looking for athletic clothes, Nike, Adidas, Puma, New Balance, and Athleta all celebrate pride month.

And then there are other times where, yeah, I probably could find similar products at another store, but I’d have to drive all the way across town to get to those stores, and I don’t always have time for that 😜
 
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but I’d have to drive all the way across town to get to those stores, and I don’t always have time for that 😜
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Yes that would be ridiculous lol. Honestly I’m sure you could find something morally against our religion within almost any brand, if you look into it enough. Your intent is not to support pride month so I would look into it too much.
 
I wouldn’t allow it to concern me. I may even have purchased a Pride themed item without particularly thinking about it. You should also be aware that many LGBT people disapprove of all the Pride themed stuff too. I don’t know where in the world you are from, but you may have heard about the LGBT sandwich available last year at the British retailer Marks & Spencer. That’s Lettuce, Guacamole, Bacon, and Tomato. It was widely derided by LGBT people, who considered it offensive.
 
I wear a pride ribbon because being gay is not a sin, and I support my friends who are gay, reminds them God loves them too… its no different then wearing a pink ribbon in for breast cancer, to support women who have/had breast cancer, reminds them God is with them… so I don’t think it would be a sin to shop at place or from companies who support the rainbow ribbons.

If that was the case, Disney would be out of business.
 
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The Catholic Church does not support the pride movement. We should not support the pride movement as it calls for a lifestyle opposite of Church teaching. This does not mean we need to become activist against it, it means we should not support it by intentionally purchasing products to support it, going to events to support it, or things like that.

The Catholic Church has always been loving toward the person even when it doesn’t support the lifestyle they have chosen. We are all called to love others, which is what we do even if we disagree with how they live.
 
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The Catholic Church has always been loving toward the person…
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Exactly, I’m being loving towards the person, who believe God hates them… kind of like when Jesus had dinner with people others told Him were sinners.

Not that I believe being gay is a sin… so I hope you know what I mean.
 
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I was more addressing the issue of supporting the pride movement. Catholics should not support it and should not take part in any activities supporting “pride” month.
 
If it were the case that it was only the occasional business which publicly supported these causes, one could more easily boycott the offending ones. However so many businesses and brands now publicly support “lgbt”, abortion etc., that it has become almost unfeasible to avoid them and live in this world. So yes, you can, in my opinion, in good conscience buy from these businesses. God sees your heart. 🙂 There’s certain brands that I won’t buy from as they are extremely vocal in their support of these ideologies, for example Converse (and they’re owned by Nike), however that’s a personal choice, and I could still buy from them from a moral standpoint, if I chose to. It would be interesting to hear from someone more studied in theology etc. though.
 
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Well if you want to go against what the Church teaches that is between you and your confessor. We do know the Catholic Church is very clear on the teaching of sexuality and marriage. Very clear!
 
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Well if you want to go against what the Church teaches that is between you and your confessor. We do know the Catholic Church is very clear on the teaching of sexuality and marriage. Very clear!
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I just asked what you mean by support… to me show God’s love for someone who is homosexual by wearing a ribbon, is no different then showing God’s love or support to any other person on the face of the earth, who needs it… it all depends on how you define support.

God says love others as you love yourself, if that goes against Catholic church teaching then maybe I need to find another church… I don’t think it does, do you?

you are automatically defining my idea of support and assuming it goes against the church… and I’m telling you, I’m showing people who define themselves as gay, that God loves them by wearing a rainbow ribbon… why don’t you believe me?
 
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Well if you want to go against what the Church teaches that is between you and your confessor. We do know the Catholic Church is very clear on the teaching of sexuality and marriage. Very clear!
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I just asked what you mean by support… to me show God’s love for someone who is homosexual by wearing a ribbon, is no different then showing God’s love or support to any other person on the face of the earth, who needs it… it all depends on how you define support.

God says love others as you love yourself, if that goes against Catholic church teaching then maybe I need to find another church… I don’t think it does, do you?

you are automatically defining my idea of support and assuming it goes against the church… and I’m telling you, I’m showing people who define themselves as gay, that God loves them by wearing a rainbow… why don’t you believe me?
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This is a good question.

There was the thread a few days ago about a priest saying we shouldn’t “celebrate” Pride Month:

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There was the thread last year about this time about the bishop saying that “Catholics should not support or attend LGBTQ ‘Pride Month’ events”:

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But there seems to be a gray area about how far we can go in supporting LGBT rights without actually attending the events.

I don’t go to “Pride” events and never have. I don’t go around saying “Happy Pride!”

But, I still support LGBT against harassment and discrimination. I’d stand with the LGBT person trying to support themselves and not bothering anyone else than the employer who doesn’t want “their kind” around. And I’d stand with the young adult trying to do their schoolwork instead of the person harassing them.
 
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This will be my last response to you as you seem to misunderstand so much of what is said. There are two different concepts here - 2 very different things
  1. Support of the movement that calls itself “Pride” as in gay pride, lesbian pride, trans pride, bi pride…and so on. This movement is very in your face, loud, deviant, without a shred of morals and totally non accepting of anyone who disagrees with their position. Someone like me would be called a homophobe at best and many other names that can’t be used on CAF at worst because I choose not to celebrate the openly deviance the “pride” movement supports. This is the movement that wants to have parades and events in public spaces with men & women dressed in very revealing clothing, often exposing areas of the body that should never be exposed in public. They often represent other types of sexuality that is not for the public eye. By this I mean I would not want grandchildren to see this.
The “pride” movement wants to normalize these types of sexuality in order that all become extremely acceptable and no one would dare question it. They also want to do this on main street, in small town USA where families live, where people are still trying to raise their kids with a sense of values and morals.

God has made clear and the Church teaches clearly who is man & woman, why there is man & woman, what sexuality between man & woman is and what it is for. To support any other teaching goes against what God and the Church teaches.

NOW the second part
2. Loving others. God calls us to love everyone regardless of who they are. God never tells us to not love someone because they live their lives in a way we disagree with. I have a niece who believes she is married to a woman. I love my niece. I also love this other girl. They are great young ladies and they are part of my family. However, I can not call their relationship a marriage. They know my position on this and it’s something we just don’t talk about. I pray for them as that is the only way I can help them without making an issue of it.

We are called to love the sinner but hate the sin. To love the sinner does not mean we have to support the sin. We don’t have to celebrate the sin.

To be very clear here… Please @annad347 read my words carefully - It is NOT a sin to be gay, it is a sin to engage in gay activity. We are to love the sinner but we can never support sinful behavior. Being friends with someone who is gay is fine, but wearing a rainbow ribbon during pride month is probably not a great idea.
 
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Being friends with someone who is gay is fine, but wearing a rainbow ribbon during pride month…
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Actually I wear the ribbon all year round, I never take it off.

I understand what you are saying… but you’re definition of support is not why I wear the ribbon… I can’t help what people think, but if they’d ask me I would tell them, not too many people do… people usually just say, thank you and God Bless.

I wear it to show that God loves everyone no matter who you are. I started wearing it because of an incident at work that made one of my friends feel worse then anything you can imagine because he wanted to wear a ribbon. The sweetest, God loving person you’d ever meet was made to feel like garbage. I wanted my friend to know, not everyone agreed with that person. I especially wanted him to know, he is loved by me and by God. You were not there, you do not know what happened to him, but he did not deserve that or to be told then, or basically his entire life that God hates you.

Thank God he’s in a good place with God now. I can’t imagine what he would have done if he wasn’t. We actually talk about God a lot, and if you didn’t know he was gay, you’d think he was a minister.

If wearing a rainbow ribbon to support him and others at my job who are gay to know they are loved is a sin, then Lord forgive me… but I know why I wear the ribbon, and God knows why I wear the ribbon. He knows my reason, my heart and my mind…now so do you.

I read what you said, I understand what you said. What you said is true but it all depends on your definition of support. The way you define support in your post, is not why I wear a rainbow ribbon… it is like I said, to show God’s loves all His children no matter who they are. I wear the rainbow ribbon year around with a gold cross on top.

and yes I’m okay ending the conversation here.

Thank you, and God Bless. 🙂
 
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I am aware that many companies sponsor “LGBT+ Pride” themes, and I neither seek out their products because of this, nor do I boycott. If it were just one or two companies, yes, I would boycott, but it’s just too pervasive. I do not think Our Blessed Lord expects us to boycott large parts of the economy, or quit buying brands to which we’ve been accustomed, just because they support “pride” events once a year. It’s all about the money.

In a perfect Catholic world, where everyone afflicted with the cross of involuntary homosexuality would live chastely and celibately in a “no questions asked” environment — none of this “why aren’t you married yet?” business — if some of those afflicted with this were to be open and public about it, I would wholeheartedly support being “proud of, and thankful for, who I am, God loves me and I love God, and my sexuality, while unfortunate, does not define me, nor am I any ‘less than’ because of it”. But we all know it doesn’t play out like that in today’s real world.

And as I always say, no gay person ever felt the need to have an abortion as a consequence of their actions. Abomination though it is, at least nobody is killed on account of it.
 
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