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Is the priest breaking the law when he gives the wine of the eucharist (an alcoholic beverage) to a minor (underaged) child ?
If you think the law is being broken or children are being harmed you have the duty to call the authorities.
 
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Can. 914 It is primarily the duty of parents and of those who take their place, as it is the duty of the parish priest, to ensure that children who have reached the use of reason are properly prepared and, having made their sacramental confession, are nourished by this divine food as soon as possible. It is also the duty of the parish priest to see that children who have not reached the use of reason, or whom he has judged to be insufficiently disposed, do not come to holy communion.

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Can. 97 §1. A person who has completed the eighteenth year of age has reached majority; below this age, a person is a minor.

§2. A minor before the completion of the seventh year is called an infant and is considered not responsible for oneself (non sui compos). With the completion of the seventh year, however, a minor is presumed to have the use of reason.

Can. 98 §1. A person who has reached majority has the full exercise of his or her rights.

§2. A minor, in the exercise of his or her rights, remains subject to the authority of parents or guardians except in those matters in which minors are exempted from their authority by divine law or canon law. In what pertains to the appointment of guardians and their authority, the prescripts of civil law are to be observed unless canon law provides otherwise or unless in certain cases the diocesan bishop, for a just cause, has decided to provide for the matter through the appointment of another guardian.

You’ll need to find something that says The Church speaks for minor children over the parent. You won’t find that. You’ll find just the opposite. If you told your child not to do something and the Church turned around and said Don’t listen to your parents do it anyway, that would violate the law of God to honor your mother and father, the Church does not do such a thing. You are simply mistaken. We can let this rest now, don’t you think?
 
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Can. 914 It is primarily the duty of parents and of those who take their place, as it is the duty of the parish priest, to ensure that children who have reached the use of reason are properly prepared and, having made their sacramental confession, are nourished by this divine food as soon as possible. It is also the duty of the parish priest to see that children who have not reached the use of reason, or whom he has judged to be insufficiently disposed, do not come to holy communion.

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Can. 97 §1. A person who has completed the eighteenth year of age has reached majority; below this age, a person is a minor.

§2. A minor before the completion of the seventh year is called an infant and is considered not responsible for oneself (non sui compos). With the completion of the seventh year, however, a minor is presumed to have the use of reason.

Can. 98 §1. A person who has reached majority has the full exercise of his or her rights.

§2. A minor, in the exercise of his or her rights, remains subject to the authority of parents or guardians except in those matters in which minors are exempted from their authority by divine law or canon law. In what pertains to the appointment of guardians and their authority, the prescripts of civil law are to be observed unless canon law provides otherwise or unless in certain cases the diocesan bishop, for a just cause, has decided to provide for the matter through the appointment of another guardian.

You’ll need to find something that says The Church speaks for minor children over the parent. You won’t find that. You’ll find just the opposite. If you told your child not to do something and the Church turned around and said Don’t listen to your parents do it anyway, that would violate the law of God to honor your mother and father, the Church does not do such a thing. You are simply mistaken. We can let this rest now, don’t you think?
Receiving the Sacraments would be something where a minor would be exempted from authority by divine law. Parents cannot refuse to let their children receive Sacraments. By the same token, if a parent converts to the Catholic Church and his/her children are over the age of reason, the children cannot be forced to become Catholic. The children must request the Sacraments on their own.
 
Come on guys. How many children even want to receive the precious blood, anyway? There are not all that many dioceses that regularly permit reception under both species, first. Second, the actual reception of the blood involves a SIP of wine, mo more, and the flavor itself takes some getting used to–many children not liking the taste at all as it is bitter/sour. Third, there IS a priest or an EMHC there. The children are not grabbing and guzzling. Fourth, the atmosphere (even in the most ‘progressive’ of Masses) is still ‘different’. Children do not associate the taste of the wine with ‘fun’ or ‘socialization’ or even as ‘forbidden adult matter’, as most children who DO become involved with alcohol usually do.

It is LEGAL. It is not ‘enabling’. It is not dangerous, it is not setting the stage for alcoholism, it is not interfering with parental or even ‘minor’ rights. Those issues are red herrings IMO (and red herrings do not go well with wine).
 
fhwa.dot.gov/legsregs/directives/fapg/cfr1208.htm

from
23 U.S.C. § 158 - NATIONAL MINIMUM DRINKING AGE
“Public possession” means the possession of any alcoholic beverage for any reason, including consumption on any street or highway or in any public place or in any place open to the public (including a club which is de facto open to the public). The term does not apply to the possession of alcohol for an established religious purpose; when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal guardian age 21 or older; for medical purposes when prescribed or administered by a licensed physician, pharmacist, dentist, nurse, hospital or medical institution; in private clubs or establishments; or to the sale, handling, transport, or service in dispensing of any alcoholic beverage pursuant to lawful employment of a person under the age of twenty-one years by a duly licensed manufacturer, wholesaler,or retailer of alcoholic beverages.
 
Since when is drinking the Blood of Christ illegal?

I have never consumed alchohol in a Church, to my knowledge.
After the substance of the wine has been changed into the Blood of Christ, the accidents remain unchanged. That means that the alchohol in the wine remains–although the amount a communicant would receive from a sip of the Precious Blood would be insignificant, unless someone happened to suffer from the problem of alchoholism…
 
  1. Consumption of acholo is more than a sip. Its not like we’re chugging Jesus and doing Eucharist stands
Pretty sure I just fell out of my chair laughing…Eucharistic keg stands, I should run that by my Priest for the next Mass…
 
Is the priest breaking the law when he gives the wine of the eucharist (an alcoholic beverage) to a minor (underaged) child ?
Have you read the label on a bottle of NyQuil? It is 10% alcohol. Why aren’t you going after a parent who gives their children NyQuil? A child taking NyQuil is given what, a teaspoon? When a child receives the Precious Blood of Jesus they receive what, 1/16 teaspoon or less. If your issue is alcohol consumption by children you need to change your focus. We know what your real issues is, John chapter 6. You can’t believe Catholics are so stupid as to believe Jesus meant what he said. Maybe you should become a bible believing Christian.
 
I doubt the OP is going to answer any of the objections from this thread is probably shaking his/her head saying “Silly Catholics…”

Regardless, if wine is good enough for Our Blessed Lord, it’s good enough for me:thumbsup:

I don’t recall Christ turning the water into grape juice. Maybe I’m wrong…

In Pax Christi
Andrew
 
I doubt the OP is going to answer any of the objections from this thread is probably shaking his/her head saying “Silly Catholics…”

Regardless, if wine is good enough for Our Blessed Lord, it’s good enough for me:thumbsup:

I don’t recall Christ turning the water into grape juice. Maybe I’m wrong…

In Pax Christi
Andrew
Maybe the OP has run out of accusations and is now scraping the bottom of the “wine barrell”:rolleyes:
 
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**1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols.

Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.

SO ARENT YOU SINNING? AND THIS IS FROM NEW TESTAMENT
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Most cough syrups have alcohol in them too. Is it illegal to give your kid cough syrup now?? :rolleyes:
 
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